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Jo you make all these references to Duane Weber and connect the dots the only problem is there was more than one Duane weber. Now! all your stories are made up every one knows it. Why do you want to make more? Jerry

Of course there are lots of Duane Webers and NONE of that is made up and YOU know it.
ARE you DELUSIONAL? What the H am I making up. I am describing what he showed me and what he told me - how is that making anything up?

Why does it disturb you for me to tell about what Duane showed me and what he told me - it doesn't Prove he was Cooper.

SO WHAT IS YOUR PROLEM?
He is a subject just like any other suspect. WHY can't you reasonably discuss these things?

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Blevins. Did ya! do you have a guilty concience. 377 you were right guess whos back or should I say never left. The indorser for Jo's book and maybe even the author/publisher.Blevins if you want more of Jo's earlier stories, I have a few. Jerry

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Jo right the proof is in the polygraph results and your past post with all the changed and add on stories . And not just on drop zone. Jerry

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Robert. Once again ,Do you have a guilty concience? And hows that working out for you anyway. Jerry

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Power lines hell Jo that was your third story in 96 your second story was a fire tower on a hill with a bunch of antenas on it and what the hell ever happened to the old dodge red truck that duane was suposed to be picked up in after the jump but his acomplace got lost. Jerry

The tower was in a different location and you know that. I explained when we left the area of the Mt or hill that we went back toward the Washougal river and then north up the Washougal and turned around at some homes or doublewides - a place where Duane told me about he used to know a man who lived there. You claimed there were NO doublewide or homes there. This is where we turned around because he had missed his turn. I told him we had passed 2 roads and then we went back to what I now know as Coffey Road (I think that is the name of it without pulling some files). I mentioned that Duane pointed out a cemetary on that road that I could not see. That we came to an intersection and then we were on what was the old 500 but that we turned North. I didn't know how far north we went and if there were any other turns. But, we did turn off onto a dirt or clay road that went back into the woods - to a clearing.

I told about his sitting there and saying that it must have been another road he missed. But then he looks around and decides he is in the right place.
This was just a large circle in the woods. He points to our right and tells me there used to be a shed there and that one time he buried something behind it. Then he tells me there used to be a tower there (I assumed fire tower because we are in the woods). He points to an area and shows me where the tree line is lower and told me there used to be a logging road that went all the way to the tracks and you could see the tower light for miles.

This site is a long ways north from the area of the hill or Mt.
Until I went out there in Oct of 2010 I thought this was closer to the area of the power lines and the hill, but driving this area I realized there was more distance.
This is where I got turned around and with no mapI did the best I could trying to describe to you an other what he showed me. At that time all I knew was that when we left this wooded area that he said if we continue on this road we go to Battleground Lake and a gravel pit....but we were not going there. He mentions a road that would go to Yacolt and told me about the tracks up thru there.

After the my recent trip in 2010 I now know that he had taken me much further North than I had thought. Why because we made a pit stop in Heisson...just as did.
When I walked into that place I was lost and upset, but realized I had been there before. I didn't remember this until I was there. I did NOT know until 2010 that Heisson was NOT a town just a store and P.O.

I now know we were N. of the Lake and the gravel pit. when he made the comment about continuing on that road we would go to Hockinson but we were going South and not North as I had thought when I was talking to you with NO map of the area. He had done a loop.

The next thing I remembered was being in a little area below Battleground (when I speak of Battleground it is not the Battleground of today), but the OLD Battleground town. This is when we made a turn West around Scottons Corner and went to Meadow Glade and the VOR.

Then we head on toward 500 again and after we get on 500 he points to my right and tells me about Dollar Corner and mentions the new hwy and then we head North up I-5.

I do not remember talking about a bunch of antennaes. I did mention that noted a lot of signal towers - is that what you call an antennae?

Realize that I had NO maps of the area - I was going from memory. A trip in which I was NOT driving and therefore the concept of distance is distorted. Time and Space become condense when one remembers something they did ONE time in their life many yrs ago. I myself did NOT realize this until I was the one behind the wheel of a car in the same area.

I do NOT know how I did this - NO one Knows - I can bearly make a trip 25 miles to see the Dr or to get tests at the hospital, but I did this trip all by myself. I have never driven in mountains or over steep hills (I did not learn to drive until I was 20 yrs old and living in FL and pregnant with my 1st child). All of my driving has been on flat land.

All I could tell you was fragments of my memory. These fragments were without time and space . Even when I got a map I didn't GET it - the time and space thing.
Only until I was behind the wheel of that car and driving myself.

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Robert . Good Idea! don't blame ya. Hows every thing else going. The newest book, has it hit the shelves yet I haven't seen it. Im going to pick up a copy as soon as I see it. When I finish it I going to turn it over to the local Library.Do you no what store closest to Baker City Oregon would have it? Jerry

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Robert. Once again ,Do you have a guilty concience? And hows that working out for you anyway. Jerry

Jerry you are the one who should have the quilty Conscience. Blevins told a story as it was told to him, just as I tell a story I have lived with a man I was married to for 17 yrs and you call us both liars.

How is this working out for you.
You are a man who has attacked everyone who ever tried to solve this case - WHY? You and you alone are responsible for this case not being solved yrs ago.

Why have you attacked anyone who came forward with a good suspect? Why do you get involved in every aspect of this case?

You are the most despicable man I have ever spoke to in my life - you do NOT care who you step on to be sure NO one can make a case - you have your hand and your words in every suspect that comes along. Perhaps the FBI never saw you the way the public is seeing you now.

I expect I will go on vacation or get a warning for this post, but hopefully Quade will read back and realize this post was warranted. The moment Blevins made a post - you attacked him.
If anyone disagrees with you - you attack them. You even attacked your friend Georger.
Then Bruce and tried to back out of it. 377 never says anything for anyone to attack.

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No Jo its realy you you are the one that has made these stories up for years. Just take a polygraph test and prove it to your self . you have been in denial so long. The funny part is you know your making up stories and the polygraph will prove you are a lier. Jerry

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How is this working out for you.
You are a man who has attacked everyone who ever tried to solve this case - WHY? You and you alone are responsible for this case not being solved yrs ago.

I bet in the morning when you have calmed down a bit you will admit that you've once again made a serious overstatement. Jerry isn't the reason this case hasn't been solved years ago.

I know you believe that Jerry deliberately mislead you about local geography. Even if he did, so what? Look at a map. Look at an aerial or sat photo. Jerry doesn't define the universe. If Jerry told me that the sun rises in the west shame on me if I remain deceived for more than 24 hours.

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Yeah, Jerry.

And I made everything up too. Everything is made up, right?

You'll excuse me if I doubt this.

This is why I quit posting to this thread:

http://adventurebooks.newsvine.com/...ly-took-my-life-back

Welcome back Robert. Please check in from time to time. You don't have to go cold turkey, just control the dose.

I can't get your link to work.

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2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

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377 you can get to Blevins web site by going on the web and typing in Robert Blevins his name and his book co pops up. I have a question , who is Farflung It is hard to figure out this person I can't say he I can't say she and I can't say it. Now there was a old song from the 50's I think called the monkey that ran for president do you think Farflung is this monkey. but that monkey was a male. So is farflungs Avatar a male or a cross dresser. Better yet who is this person in real life. Jerry

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I bet in the morning when you have calmed down a bit you will admit that you've once again made a serious overstatement.

Sure. And then she will actually deliver on the latest imminent revelation she promised us weeks ago

Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

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I bet in the morning when you have calmed down a bit you will admit that you've once again made a serious overstatement.

Sure. And then she will actually deliver on the latest imminent revelation she promised us weeks ago

would you believe 'years ago' ?

and the same for the others: Thomas, Blevins,
etal.

I mean its fine to have all of these "experts"
who know everything about the Cooper case
telling us 'how it was'. But when nothing ever
pans out and all explanations fail, then what?

Where's the beef?

All of the personal 'crap' being spewed by these
people just spekas for their credibility!

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How is this working out for you.
You are a man who has attacked everyone who ever tried to solve this case - WHY? You and you alone are responsible for this case not being solved yrs ago.

I bet in the morning when you have calmed down a bit you will admit that you've once again made a serious overstatement. Jerry isn't the reason this case hasn't been solved years ago.

I know you believe that Jerry deliberately mislead you about local geography. Even if he did, so what? Look at a map. Look at an aerial or sat photo. Jerry doesn't define the universe. If Jerry told me that the sun rises in the west shame on me if I remain deceived for more than 24 hours.

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In 1997 when JERRY started all of this I had never touched a computer other than the programs at work for real estate. I did NOT own a computer and had never done a search. It was difficult enough just to manage that. I had NO knowledge of maps other than State map and didn't know how to order maps for various locations...such as Vancouver. I was at the mercy of others and my memory...Jerry knew this and so did Himmelsbach which is WHY Himmelsbach suggested I contact Jerry.

IT was NOT until I went to WA in 2001 for the documentary until I realized JERRY had deceived me and it cost me my credibility at that time - that was JERRY's plan and had it NOT been for the ANGEL Udell - I would have left WA thinking I was absolutely crazy...

If Jerry was the GO to Man there was NO excuse in his NOT knowing exactly what I was talking about. The Angel Udell knew in 3 minutes....a woman truck driver.

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How is this working out for you.
You are a man who has attacked everyone who ever tried to solve this case - WHY? You and you alone are responsible for this case not being solved yrs ago.

I bet in the morning when you have calmed down a bit you will admit that you've once again made a serious overstatement. Jerry isn't the reason this case hasn't been solved years ago.

I know you believe that Jerry deliberately mislead you about local geography. Even if he did, so what? Look at a map. Look at an aerial or sat photo. Jerry doesn't define the universe. If Jerry told me that the sun rises in the west shame on me if I remain deceived for more than 24 hours.

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In 1997 when JERRY started all of this I had never touched a computer other than the programs at work for real estate. I did NOT own a computer and had never done a search. It was difficult enough just to manage that. I had NO knowledge of maps other than State map and didn't know how to order maps for various locations...such as Vancouver. I was at the mercy of others and my memory...Jerry knew this and so did Himmelsbach which is WHY Himmelsbach suggested I contact Jerry.

I was NOT until I went to WA in 2001 for the documentary until I realized JERRY had deceived me and it cost me my credibility at that time - that was JERRY's plan and had it NOT been for the ANGEL Udell - I would have left WA thinking I was absolutely crazy...

If Jerry was the GO to Man there was NO excuse in his NOT knowing exactly what I was talking about. The Angel Udell knew in 3 minutes....a woman truck driver.

How many more months are you going to cover
this over and over again ... ?

I beg you to stop for the sake of the group.

Thomas likewise.

Blevins likewise.

Knoss (banned for a month) likewise.

All of you people have consumed every last ounce
of any credibility you might have had, by all of
these wild claims and personal attacks.

Viewed from the outside it is childish and stupid.

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I bet in the morning when you have calmed down a bit you will admit that you've once again made a serious overstatement.

Sure. And then she will actually deliver on the latest imminent revelation she promised us weeks ago

AS soon AS I hear something the thread will know. I can't make other people jump thru hoops.
I made a daring move on February 11th and I am still waiting for the results. Something Georger stated in passing gave me an indication he knows what I did. Therefore may be more connected to the investigation than anyone here.

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I bet in the morning when you have calmed down a bit you will admit that you've once again made a serious overstatement.

Sure. And then she will actually deliver on the latest imminent revelation she promised us weeks ago

AS soon AS I hear something the thread will know. I can't make other people jump thru hoops.
I made a daring move on February 11th and I am still waiting for the results. Something Georger stated in passing gave me an indication he knows what I did. Therefore may be more connected to the investigation than anyone here.

sickening.

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Geoger And what makes you think your different with your childish comments, for instance last week to 377. Jerry PS attack one and receive the same. I run defense why don't you try that. Jerry

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Jo I do not know how you can come up with anything better than a real suspect like Vicki's farther. You have made sure that every one on the Cooper flight has seen pictures of Duane either by contact or the media his picture has been shown and seen by many.Now vicki's father on the other hand is different his picture has not been shown directly to the stewardess yet or the personell on the flight however this is taking place. Non recognize Duane or his Copy Right Ears. to include the stewardess. When will you except the fact that the GiG is up? " ALL"What surprises me is there is many witnesses to this crime and most everyone has not taken into account that these witnesses can Identify who Cooper was, every suspect that has come up a picture has been shown to people on this flight non recognized any of them.Yet many authors still write books stating they have the real Cooper. Still all fail to remember that witnesses are shown pictures of suspects with different disguises. Every person has something distinct about there features. Have you ever noticed that actors on tv regardless of how they make them up they can be recognized. Voices are the same. Many arguments can be made to this however Cooper did not alter his physical features (ears nose ect.) Jerry

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Jo I do not know how you can come up with anything better than a real suspect like Vicki's farther. You have made sure that every one on the Cooper flight has seen pictures of Duane either by contact or the media his picture has been shown and seen by many. Jerry

This is when you do not know what you are talking about. The crew has NOT been shown pictures of Duane other than what was made available in the media......I was told this by FBI.Why don't you contact the agent of record in 1997 - 2000. This was the agent who had the case when Duane was presented as a suspect. I am not going to give you his name as you supposedly KNOW ALL.


It was only after I had some visitors to my home in the last 2 yrs who saw photos of Duane NEVER made public - and just didn't understand why I didn't use them. Both commented after viewing the album they didn't understand why I had not used some of those photos and expressed surprise at how much Duane was able to change his appearance. I had always said Duane was like a chameleon, but NO one cared.

Sluggo is not one of these 2 and Ido not remember his viewing my private family album.

Vickie's father had hazel eyes NOT DARK PIERCING BROWN EYES. The pictures I viewed did NOT convince me he was Cooper. The fact he disappeared in 1971 is suspect. Yes, he should be investigated, but I will assure of this - the witnesses WILL NOT BE SHOWN ANY PHOTOS. The FBI can NO LONGER use eyewitness accounts - it has been too many yrs and these witnesses have been exposed to so many suspect photos - they could my never be able to make a positive ID...with a photo alone.

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Sluggo is not one of these 2 and Ido not remember his viewing my private family album.

Jo,

Given all the trouble Sluggo went to with you, why didn't you show him all relevant Duane photos? You seem to be saying you held the best ones back.

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What surprises me is there is many witnesses to this crime and most everyone has not taken into account that these witnesses can Identify who Cooper was, every suspect that has come up a picture has been shown to people on this flight non recognized any of them.

Jerry, you are out of step with the times. It has been 40 yrs. and theses witnesses may never be able to ID a photo of Cooper.

There are ONLY 2 witnesses still alive who actual had any close contact with Cooper. There is a third, but her contact was brief when she went to retrive her purse. It is my understanding only one witness saw Coopers eyes without his glasses.

This has been discussed at lenght in this thread and with the FBI on my behalf. YOU have no actual clue about what is happening in Seattle...

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Sluggo is not one of these 2 and I do not remember his viewing my private family album.

Jo,

Given all the trouble Sluggo went to with you, why didn't you show him all relevant Duane photos? You seem to be saying you held the best ones back.

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Sluggo went over materials and I had NO idea at that time these other photos would mean anything to anyone. He and I did NOT get to that point. These other individuals actually took time to view everything - especially things I had never shown the FBI - personal things.

Sluggo was concentrating on the things he thought relevant - as he deals with numbers and facts, not people and their pasts. These 2 other individuals were more on the personal level - they wanted too see what made Duane tick - so they were looking for different things than Sluggo was.


I have so much "stuff" it would take wks to go through it all. I would NOT have pulled out the family album had I not know this one individual for more than 10 yrs and trusted him. He stayed at my home which actually gave us more real time to visit and for him go know me as a person.

This person was the one who noted that Duane's resignation was penned the day after the Money Find in 1980 was featured in the Denver newpaper. Sluggo didn't catch this because he did NOT go to the personal level and look at the resignation Duane had done. Different individuals were looking at different things.

Sluggo doesn't think Duane was Cooper and the other 2 individuals have very different opinions. I believe that if everything I had was being viewed by 12 people at one time - the Yeas might out weigh the Nays. The FBI made copies of only a few things and lots of notes (four hours)...who knows what got lost in the translation between the field official here and the agents in Seattle. (Note the agent who came to my home to interview me had only recently learned who Cooper was when he got the call to come see me). Also there were many new things over the ensueing yrs I didn't know to present to the agents - things the FBI has never come to look at...over the yrs.

Only one agent (a local agent I mentioned above ) ever interviewed me or viewed the thing I had...that was in 1997. NO other agent ever interviewed me or viewed the items in my possession.Not one agent has looked at the new information and photos I acquired during the yrs after 1997. Carr saw thing on the thread while he was tooting his horn...but, those were never provided to the FBI in an official capacity. I have NO verification the FBI office ever saw what I mailed and emailed to him or the content of this thread.

Two agents went to see the man who bought the van and talked to a couple of people who knew Duane...These agents did NOT come to see me so I don't know if they were local agents who knew little about the crime or the agent of record out of WA.

Everything else the FBI did was out of their office except when the local agents picked up the DNA in 2003 and returned it in 2008. Outside of phone calls that is the sum total of my contacts with FBI agents.

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377. Aparently Jo is not going to get the message that Duane has been eliminated, his picture has been shown to all and was identified as not Cooper.I think the point I was trying to make is being missed here . There is only one suspect at this time all others has been Identified and considered not of real interest.All new suspects will be processed and either join the ranks of the others or be the actual hijacker himself.The only real mystery is where did he land.All this other crap , Claims of Cooper being some one that survived a miracle is not an interest.Any claim that has already been checked out and determined not of interest is a waist of time and space on this thread. Any claim that states, I remember Mr Cooper took me here or I had a dream and remember we did this is BS/irelevent. All this has been posted and heard before. Any further claims or stories should be ignored and discouraged. If a new suspect pops up this should be our interest. Not the has beens. Geoger is correct and so is farflung orange 1 Robert 99 ect even you quade.I get off on a tangent when lies are told, especialy when it involves me I do not except being atacked with lies or any other means of verbal play.So all that being said lets get back to reality and start searching for the only real mystery that we can and Identify the dropzone of the real Cooper and new suspects "Please" .Jerry

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Aparently Jo is not going to get the message that Duane has been eliminated, his picture has been shown to all and was identified as not Cooper..I get off on a tangent when lies are told, especialy when it involves me I do not except being atacked with lies or any other means of verbal play.So all that being said lets get back to reality and start searching for the only real mystery that we can and Identify the dropzone of the real Cooper and new suspects "Please" .Jerry

Jerry,

Verbal Play - that is ALL you have ever done . You have never produce one piece of evidence.
You are the one who has actually called me a liar over and over and over. Even when you have been faced with dated emails, radio programs and other communications that prove you either misunderstood or decieved me for 14 yrs and I want to know WHY?

According to you Jerry anyone with a suspect except yourself is a story teller. How many of us have you called a liar - it is anyone who confronts you such as Blevins and myself.

Where was I going when you went off on your tangent. I was asking for help with the Metsker maps - and that I think is more important to find out HOW and WHY that money got on Tena's Bar...and YOU do not want to go there because it will dispute very claim you ever made about the money.

If Cooper did NOT survive we would have found something by now. So follow the only clue we have to Cooper's survival or demise - the one thing we have NOT done. The LZ has been done over and over. You can't stand it because I have reason to believe that money got there by a different means - and need help in exploring this...because you are afraid it would point to Weber.

The FBI has NOT eliminated Duane Weber - and if you spoke with the agent of record - you would know this. He was temporarily eliminated due to DNA they are not sure they have and a HOT shot agent shooting off his mouth prematurely. What are you afraid of?

Are you afraid information about the land and homes built or destroyed between 1971 and 1980 will cause your world to crash? We will never find the DZ unless we follow the money trail and this is the ONLY thing this thread nor anyone else has NOT
done. Why are you so opposed to chasing the money with a completely different theory that could explain how the money got on Tena's bar?

Follow the money and this case could be solved. Open your mind to the impossible and this case could be solved. Stop repeating rumors and believing you can make hazel turn dark piercing brown. If we believed you Jerry then the witnesses are totally unreliable - remember it was Florence who said Cooper had dark piercing Brown eyes. Yet, you consistently indicate the witnesses have claimed Weber was NOT Cooper. The FBI says they did NOT show pictures of Duane to the witnesses - because the witnesses have explicitately requested they NOT be show pictures or contacted.

I have the name of the FBI agent who told me this and it was NOT Carr. Even Carr was unable to contact the witnesses if he followed protocol.

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