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Jerry:

You KNOW you have absolutely NO connections to the FBI agent on this case. You don't even know his name. If the FBI had information for Vickie - they would NOT communicate that information to you...but, to her personally.

Maybe they have a print match as that is currently the only thing that would put her father on that plane. Why are you so worried about JO finding out. Remember I have been there and done that - I have been where Vickie is right now. Hopefully she gets some resolutions as to who and what her father was. I personally know what it is like NOT to know about someone's past.

[:/]By the way Jerry - You were the topic of a discussion today with other individuals who are connected to the Cooper case. The conversation on the other end about you was not KIND. Seems like everyone thinks you are an individual with a serious problem....your ranting and raving and attacks on anyone who has an opinion not in agreement with your own have created problems in the past - seems like you have a few bolts loose...you are a loose canon ball. I am NOT the only one you have intimidated in the past.

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Jerry:

You KNOW you have absolutely NO connections to the FBI agent on this case. You don't even know his name. If the FBI had information for Vickie - they would NOT communicate that information to you...but, to her personally.

Maybe they have a print match as that is currently the only thing that would put her father on that plane. Why are you so worried about JO finding out. Remember I have been there and done that - I have been where Vickie is right now. Hopefully she gets some resolutions as to who and what her father was. I personally know what it is like NOT to know about someone's past.

[:/]By the way Jerry - You were the topic of a discussion today with other individuals who are connected to the Cooper case. The conversation on the other end about you was not KIND. Seems like everyone thinks you are an individual with a serious problem....your ranting and raving and attacks on anyone who has an opinion not in agreement with your own have created problems in the past - seems like you have a few bolts loose...you are a loose canon ball. I am NOT the only one you have intimidated in the past.



people in glass boats shouldnt toss stones ?

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Earlier I made this post about a man who saw an individual he believes to be Cooper on that Thanksgiving morning in Nov of 1971. I am inserting in red some more information I learned today.


One accounting I have is verifiable because he told the wife he was married to about this when he got home from work. His work obviously required he work on Thanksgiving Day. I suppose in some occupations that was NOT unusually in 1971.

Today I learned that he was helping another person or member of the family with some constructions - and that is where he was headed to on that Thankgiving morning.

At any rate when he was driving to work that morning around day break - he passed a man walking down the road (the location I will not reveal at this time because of JT). This man was carrying a small suitcase or satchel dressed in what I have been told was a "brown" jacket that seemed out of place in this area. I do not know why he didn't offer the man a ride? I do question that?"

He may have been going in the opposite direction, because of the job location.

Also he was NOT aware of the skyjacking that morning on his way to work. I figured he hatched the story at work after finding out about the skyjacking but, I now I doubt this was the case.

This construction was on private land and a side job. The other party had spent the night at the construction site - and neither of them knew about Cooper until they got home that Thanksgiving evening.

This particular locations was one I have screamed about for yrs and was told IT DID NOT EXIST, but it does. Even I discounted the story when I first heard it 10 yrs ago...I thought it was too far North. On my trip in Oct of 2011 - was when I discovered this place did exist and the walking along the road was NOT too far from a very very specific area I have described multiple times....I also realized in 2011 I had been there before.

I have tried to explain how memory and time and space works. A place you have only visited one time 1979 - and was not the one behind the wheel of the vehicle - the memory to store all of this condenses time and space. It was only this last trip and being behind the wheel of a car - I realized this. My expensive trip in Oct. of 2011 is when I realized how my mind had compacted things. Everything I had described actually existed, but I had tried to make them all fit on one small portion of a map...when in reality they where spread out from area further N. and then S. to Washougal. Note because of JT I only say further N. and do not give specific locations.

The additional information tonight was second hand from a related party and all this person could tell me. When I made the post I posed questions to myself, I had not thought to ask when this story was related to me in 2000 - 11 yrs ago.

Putting something into words on a keyboard, I find often I did not ask or make notes of all of the conversation when I was contacted by individuals. The computer was new to me in 2000 and I did NOT have unlimited long distance yrs ago. Had I not related this story to the thread I may never have thought to ask the questions I posed about 3 hours ago on the phone.
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People in glass boats shouldn't toss stones ?



;)Georger, I know how to swim!
Rescued 2 boys in a rip in the Gulf when I was 50 yrs old. The lifeguard was too far away to have reached the boys in time and I knew this. I was a certified lifeguard at the age of 17.

I will admit that when the life guard finally got there after I had broke out of the Rip - I was exhausted and NEVER ever thought I would be glad to see a lifeguard myself.

I react - I don't think. I do what I think is the right thing at that time. Don't expect me to be too kind to Jerry - he has NOT been kind to me. I am not sure I would even throw him a buoy...that is how much I despise that man.

Jerry was throwing stones before I knew I was under attack from 1996 to 2000.
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The old expression 'It's been fun but I gotta run...' certainly applies to yours truly, especially with my involvement over the past two years investigating the case of skyjacker 'D.B. Cooper'. After dozens of trips around the Northwest, office paranoia, a book, and an appearance on the History Channel, I am definitely ready to return to my normal life.

I found out a few things along the way. There is a fan club for Cooper, although I would call it more of a cult following than anything else. They have groups on the internet, the most famous being the one at Dropzone, the biggest site for skydivers in the world. On their Skydiving History and Trivia thread there are more than 30,000 posts about D.B. Cooper and they are on their second thread. The first one can still be viewed, but it was locked down by the moderators after it got out of control. One of the most famous posters on the original thread was Seattle F.B.I. Special Agent Larry Carr, who went under the username 'Ckret' ('secret'). Agent Carr tried to clarify the details on the case and provide solid information. He was a good resource. But after the armchair experts kept shredding his posts and trying to tell him he didn't know much about the case, he finally abandoned the site in disgust. At the time, Special Agent Carr was the lead investigator in the Cooper case.

I don't blame Carr for leaving the site. Those Cooper folks can go crazy on you. They don't really want the case solved anyway, although they say they do. If it were solved, they would no longer have a purpose in life. For my part, I'm about 85-90% convinced that Cooper was actually an employee of the airline named Kenneth Peter Christiansen, an ex-paratrooper who lived in the Seattle area. You know what? I would like to be right about that, but I no longer care much. While I was involved in the case, I had no life and no time to do the things I really like to do. Those things are hiking, camping, fishing, editing other peoples' books - and writing science fiction or crime novels. And after the Christiansen book was released, I got a flood of emails. About three quarters of them were either hate mail or from people who told me I was wrong, crazy, or both. I finally said the hell with it and got a new address from Gmail. (*smiles*)

When I finally wrapped the whole D.B. Cooper thing I went back and finished up my new book. It comes out at Amazon in about two weeks.

And next week I'm going camping. It's been fun D.B. Cooper...but I gotta run.
http://adventurebooks.newsvine.com/_news/2011/03/02/6173676-after-two-years-of-investigating-db-cooper-i-finally-took-my-life-back



Do you speak for Larry Carr or is this just another
of your editorials? It isnt Newsvine/MSNBC's
article or editorial .... it's yours. What a hozer!




I altered your heading to reflect the truth.

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I don't blame Carr for leaving the site. Those Cooper folks can go crazy on you. They don't really want the case solved anyway, although they say they do. If it were solved, they would no longer have a purpose in life



I don't agree Robert. I want the case solved. So does everyone else here. This forum is fun but having the case solved would be immensely satisfying. Even Jo wants the case solved. She wants Duane proven to be Cooper but she could deal with a different outcome and accept it if the proof were solid.

In an effort to rise from the valley of sniping and ascend to the plateau of research, can anyone point to s single written record that substantiates the Fazio's claim that a debris field of currency shards was found at Tena Bar? If something this significant were found wouldn't it likely be in FBI and expert reports?

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2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

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Drama! Watch out. It will consume you.

You can't go forward by looking back!!!

You already posted this, why keep repeating yourself? It really looks like a desperate plea for attention.

Bring yourself above it and move on!!

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Melvin Luther Wilson - Missing Person since September 1971:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03QLnFvk8Fs

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So if a Cooper movie were made today, who would you cast as DBC? George Clooney? Kevin Spacey?

Real age, height and weight is not a factor with all they can do with computer graphics and makeup.

Charley Sheen wants the part but his demands for on-set hookers and drugs is way over the normal Holllywood allotment and the studio is balking.

Robert Downey Jr. said he'd do it for no hookers and half the drugs.

Farflung is angling for a bit part as a priest who does long term "therapy" for a traumatized Tina.

377



John Cusack, cos I like watching him, but the role might be a bit 'boring' for him. I think Kevin Spacey is a good choice ...or William H Macy. Yeah, Macy would probably do it well, if we have a somewhat conflicted Cooper :)
Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun.

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Most of the time I have to engage deductive powers of reasoning lest I assume a fetal position and cry myself to sleep, again; because some human has deflected, minimized or distorted some situation. But I’m very sure that I live in a unique and tiny vacuum where questions like “What time did you get to work?” receive “I brought my lunch” as an answer.

As Darwin surmised, I have in fact evolved into a subspecies that can face a person spinning such a fantastic yarn, that a cerebral aneurism would manifest, if not for some immunity developed from years of constant exposure to such abject, unbridled and unashamed ignorance.

Is there a report on shards of money being found on Tena Bar? I don’t know is the best answer since I can’t say ‘yes’ and produce that report and saying ‘no’ would infer that there is none. Confirming a negative is difficult. Yet when I wake in the morning and see snow on the ground, I can infer that it must have snowed during the night. I don’t have to observe snow falling to come to an accurate conclusion about what produced the new ground covering. Same is true about the origin of kittens. One can make a simple assumption about their creation without being a firsthand witness to Satan’s coven of witches inseminating a fur lined bag of razor blades and barbed wire with skittish and frantic reanimation fluids. So it is in that spirit that I have attached an article from 16 Feb 1980.

According to news reports, the money was discovered on the 10th and spent the evening being ignored as little more than a pile of worthless mush. Yeah, riiiiiiiiight.

Then on Monday (the 11th) a bank was called about redeeming the worthless pile of glop. Could be done but the numbers would be checked. Next the FBI is contacted and given some details. Quite a bit of chatter and action for a soggy heap of garbage but this can happen.

Next the site is searched and combed for anything by teams of experts with 8 X 10, glossy photos with lines and arrows with a paragraph description on the back.

Was anything found?

I don’t know. But by Friday, the 15th the area was returned back to private citizens, tourists and various treasure seekers.

If there was a trove of missed shards and fragments, it would be difficult to believe that some enterprising person would not bottle or package it (Elvis Sweat) for commercial consumption.

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If there was a trove of missed shards and fragments, it would be difficult to believe that some enterprising person would not bottle or package it (Elvis Sweat) for commercial consumption.



That's actually a good point Farflung. When analysing situations always consider the self interests of particpants. Most will act on them.

If those alleged DBC currency shards werent collected and marketed they probably didnt exist.

I wish I had a Cooper twenty. Jo cant sell me one. Neither can Galen. Jerry thinks he might find a cache someday, but his time would be more profitably spent in his gold mine.

Say what you want about Jerry, but the guy has a gold mine, a military pension and a young wife. Not a bad situation.

If I had a productive gold mine I wouldnt care about being banned from taverns. I could just buy the establishment if I wanted to drink there.

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Thank you Sluggo!!! Much appreciated.

Looks like there were currency fragments in the Tena Bar sand. Wish we had more info about exactly where they were found (depth, dispersal, distance from Ingram find, etc).

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Not so fast grasshopper...

Many who have had access to the files have found no record supporting "fragments at 3-feet depth."



Sooooo.... Who you gonna believe????

Jabin? Carr? Kaye? georger? The Fazio(s)? Himmelsbach? Eng? Some stringer who repeated what he/she (must remain PC) read in Jabin's article.


I'm a librarian, NOT a researcher. BUT... I wouldn't hang my hat on Jabin... he had a reputation for interesting copy, delivered before deadline, even at the expense of the truth.

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My suspension of disbelief has been in overdrive on the subject of this cash discovery. How many barriers to common sense have been erected over this stuff?

Money found on the bank of the COLUMBIA. Must have come from Lake Merwin or the Washougal or fallen from the aircraft or been buried by one of many suspects between 1971 and 1979.

Money was deposited from dredging operations. Nope. It was too deep or was it too shallow to be the product of dredging. Besides that was last done in umm…… ahh…. 1974(?) so that can’t be it.

What percent of the banks of the Columbia can even receive dredging spoils? Really.

Micro-biological life will render a clue as to the origins of this booty. Nope, nothing but the usual forensics anything which has been in the Columbia River would produce. There is nothing at all to give anyone a clue as to where this money may have been for the last nine years, just boring old Columbia River stuff, how strange.

Why won’t this money which was discovered in the middle of a dredging deposit on the banks of the Columbia River laced with microbes common to the Columbia give us some sort of clue as to where it was and how it got there? I’m sitting here beside myself.

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My suspension of disbelief has been in overdrive on the subject of this cash discovery. How many barriers to common sense have been erected over this stuff?



The barriers:

1. Cooper lost the cash and it ended up in some remote place eventually washing down the river to Tena's bar.

2. That Cooper actually hit the Columbia himself.

3. The ONE no one wants to believe - that the money was not put into the river until 1979 last wk of Sept or first wk of Oct. That this money had previously been hidden in another place or places. (the one theory that has NOT been tested)

4. What if anything is known about the bills? Silver nitrate used in the process of trying to extract prints. No mention has been made of alternative storage of the bills, except for the crazy woman.

5. At the time of the find - no enquiries were made of owners who owned or leased properties along the river from 1971 to 1980.

Closed mines will never know the truths that are hidden within.
:S



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Money found on the bank of the COLUMBIA. Must have come from Lake Merwin or the Washougal or fallen from the aircraft or been buried by one of many suspects between 1971 and 1979.



These theories where approached and yielded No results that made sense.
:S



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Why won’t this money which was discovered in the middle of a dredging deposit on the banks of the Columbia River laced with microbes common to the Columbia give us some sort of clue as to where it was and how it got there? I’m sitting here beside myself.




The clues were there - but it was easier to claim Cooper drowned and the money had been in the water for 8 yrs. NO one was more surprised this money surfaced than the FBI. It was easier to claim Cooper hit the water and drowned so people would quit looking for him.
:S

Cooper was not smart - when he dumped the money in the river.
In the past he was a guy who spent more time in prison than out of it because he kept making the same stupid mistakes and many time got caught, but how many times did he not get caught?
;)

What was Cooper thinking when he dumped that money in the river? They would find it and think he died and stop looking for him? Was he afraid his wife might find it? Did he just do a stupid thing without even thinking about the consequences?
:S

The money showed up a few months later and what does he do - goes on the run. Turns in his resignation and leaves the area leaving behind his wife and home...he needed to put space between himself and WA and he did that by going to AL. This was the same MO that put Cooper in prison and/or jail 5 times or maybe more due to all his aliases.
:D

The stupid Crook got lucky! He had bungled everything else in his life from the time he was kid.
Poor marriages, poor choices, disowned by his family at the age of 18. His family was ashamed of his military discharges - they left Ohio.
Then trying to win his families approval he managed to get himself into the ARMY to please his parents - it didn't work. This trouble maker just got into more trouble when he commandered the General's vehicle for a joy ride at Camp Seibert, AL.
:)

He chose the General's vehicle for a Joy Ride! Now that was REAL dumb! Wonder who the General was at that time?
:S

Anyone stupid enough to do that was stupid enough to jump out of the belly of a 727 just because he could do it!
:):o
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My suspension of disbelief has been in overdrive on the subject of this cash discovery. How many barriers to common sense have been erected over this stuff?



The barriers:

1. Cooper lost the cash and it ended up in some remote place eventually washing down the river to Tena's bar.

2. That Cooper actually hit the Columbia himself.

3. The ONE no one wants to believe - that the money was not put into the river until 1979 last wk of Sept or first wk of Oct. That this money had previously been hidden in another place or places. (the one theory that has NOT been tested)

4. What if anything is known about the bills? Silver nitrate used in the process of trying to extract prints. No mention has been made of alternative storage of the bills, except for the crazy woman.

5. At the time of the find - no enquiries were made of owners who owned or leased properties along the river from 1971 to 1980.

Closed mines will never know the truths that are hidden within.
:S



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Money found on the bank of the COLUMBIA. Must have come from Lake Merwin or the Washougal or fallen from the aircraft or been buried by one of many suspects between 1971 and 1979.



These theories where approached and yielded No results that made sense.
:S



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Why won’t this money which was discovered in the middle of a dredging deposit on the banks of the Columbia River laced with microbes common to the Columbia give us some sort of clue as to where it was and how it got there? I’m sitting here beside myself.




The clues were there - but it was easier to claim Cooper drowned and the money had been in the water for 8 yrs. NO one was more surprised this money surfaced than the FBI. It was easier to claim Cooper hit the water and drowned so people would quit looking for him.
:S

Cooper was not smart - when he dumped the money in the river.
In the past he was a guy who spent more time in prison than out of it because he kept making the same stupid mistakes and many time got caught, but how many times did he not get caught?
;)

What was Cooper thinking when he dumped that money in the river? They would find it and think he died and stop looking for him? Was he afraid his wife might find it? Did he just do a stupid thing without even thinking about the consequences?
:S

The money showed up a few months later and what does he do - goes on the run. Turns in his resignation and leaves the area leaving behind his wife and home...he needed to put space between himself and WA and he did that by going to AL. This was the same MO that put Cooper in prison and/or jail 5 times or maybe more due to all his aliases.
:D

The stupid Crook got lucky! He had bungled everything else in his life from the time he was kid.
Poor marriages, poor choices, disowned by his family at the age of 18. His family was ashamed of his military discharges - they left Ohio.
Then trying to win his families approval he managed to get himself into the ARMY to please his parents - it didn't work. This trouble maker just got into more trouble when he commandered the General's vehicle for a joy ride at Camp Seibert, AL.
:)

He chose the General's vehicle for a Joy Ride! Now that was REAL dumb! Wonder who the General was at that time?
:S

Anyone stupid enough to do that was stupid enough to jump out of the belly of a 727 just because he could do it!
:):o


Thank you Charlie Sheen.

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Why won’t this money which was discovered in the middle of a dredging deposit on the banks of the Columbia River laced with microbes common to the Columbia give us some sort of clue as to where it was and how it got there? I’m sitting here beside myself.



sometimes its the absence of things vs. the
presence of everything?

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Thank you Charlie Sheen.



GEORGER you didn't NOTE :S
for crazy thur out that post?

Now you say the absense of evidence - explain what you are talking about!

Could the absense of this evidence be the result of this money having been stored in another location in WA or OR for several yrs? Or perhaps someplace else all together?

What if only the bottom of the container the money was stored in was wet - only the bottom layer would need to be destroyed.
And of course I mean thrown into the Columbia. We can be assured that money did NOT come down thru the Bonneville Damn and over the rock of the Washougal....SO how did it get there - and it obviously was NOT in the water from Nov. of 1971 until Feb. 1980. Eight yrs in the water?

Now who sounds like Charlie Sheen?

Question: You are able to actually investigate photos - this is NOT a joke. Last night I noticed something in an old polaroid made in 1970 and enlarged it as large as my system will allow me.

I want you to look at this - I know about your work with the planets and some of the photo work you have done regarding the planets and stars.. I think you might be able to help, but I don't want to be made fun of or for this to become public knowledge, because it may just be a defect in the old print which was taken with polaroid.

I can have it scanned to a disk at the highest DPI's they can do and mail it to you or a 3rd party or a P.O. Box. I cannot email it or post it - as I only have dial-up.
You can PM me here but I cannot PM you...

I also want to learn if that old book of which the lower part was wet might not have the impression of money on it.
I will NOT send the book but have them also scan this very very fragil book so you can see if that is a money image on the back.

Just a request or do you know someone I could take it to that would be capable of doing the same thing...I don't want to have to tell them WHY I want this done. Perhaps you could arrange it thur a University near me. I just didn't see this until last night and stayed up all night trying to enlarge the darn thing.
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Thank you Charlie Sheen.



GEORGER you didn't NOTE :S
for crazy thur out that post?

Now you say the absense of evidence - explain what you are talking about!

Could the absense of this evidence be the result of this money having been stored in another location in WA or OR for several yrs? Or perhaps someplace else all together?

What if only the bottom of the container the money was stored in was wet - only the bottom layer would need to be destroyed.
And of course I mean thrown into the Columbia. We can be assured that money did NOT come down thru the Bonneville Damn and over the rock of the Washougal....SO how did it get there - and it obviously was NOT in the water from Nov. of 1971 until Feb. 1980. Eight yrs in the water?

Now who sounds like Charlie Sheen?

Question: You are able to actually investigate photos - this is NOT a joke. Last night I noticed something in an old polaroid made in 1970 and enlarged it as large as my system will allow me.

I want you to look at this - I know about your work with the planets and some of the photo work you have done regarding the planets and stars.. I think you might be able to help, but I don't want to be made fun of or for this to become public knowledge, because it may just be a defect in the old print which was taken with polaroid.

I can have it scanned to a disk at the highest DPI's they can do and mail it to you or a 3rd party or a P.O. Box. I cannot email it or post it - as I only have dial-up.
You can PM me here but I cannot PM you...

I also want to learn if that old book of which the lower part was wet might not have the impression of money on it.
I will NOT send the book but have them also scan this very very fragil book so you can see if that is a money image on the back.

Just a request or do you know someone I could take it to that would be capable of doing the same thing...I don't want to have to tell them WHY I want this done. Perhaps you could arrange it thur a University near me. I just didn't see this until last night and stayed up all night trying to enlarge the darn thing.


someone here may be able to help you -

http://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=10890

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Of COURSE it's an opinion/editorial article. I've been posting articles there since March of 2007. More than 450 of them, all illustrated. I have the most pictorial articles on the site, which is why the column averages over 250,000 views a year.

And I stand by the article completely. I got my opinion on Carr by downloading the entire frickin' thread into a massive Word doc and examining it post by post. I saw exactly what happened and why he left. Any other questions?



(yes)

1. are you working on the parachute issue you
were pissing and moaning about?

2. are you working on the 'Rat flew over the
Washougal' issue ? You promised you would have
Porteous call Rat and resolve this, as you did the
'Scott went to the back' issue, and 'Rat saw bag'
issue ... all your claims'? Or are you backing out?

3. are you working on the attic issue?

4. did you receive your copy of the Palmer report
from PSU and what do you think about it?

5. what happened to your and Jos Comcast
interview? Is that still on?

6. I didnt know you could download the whole
thread. Where do you do that?

You abandoned ship so quickly we hardly had
time to say Goodbye!

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I don't care about the other stuff. Let someone else figure it all out. I'm heading up to the Carbon River near Mount Rainier on Friday to pop off mass .22 and have fun in Little Subie. I will return on Monday. While I'm up there I will be wrapping up Revenge Story on my laptop at night in the tent.

Trust me. I deserve this. ;)



now that I can empathise with! I have my haunts
too. Alls well that ends well, sometimes. I did go
over and read your column on John Demjanjuk.
You tackled a difficult one there. You had some
interesting and well informed commenters I thot
you did pretty well with, on the positive side.
anyway shalom and enjoy Nature ...

todah. (thanks)

ps: come back from time to time and we'll
argue more! Take care Robert.

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I don't care about the other stuff. Let someone else figure it all out. I'm heading up to the Carbon River near Mount Rainier on Friday to pop off mass .22 and have fun in Little Subie. I will return on Monday. While I'm up there I will be wrapping up Revenge Story on my laptop at night in the tent.

Trust me. I deserve this. ;)



now that I can empathise with! I have my haunts
too. Alls well that ends well, sometimes. I did go
over and read your column on John Demjanjuk.
You tackled a difficult one there. You had some
interesting and well informed commenters I thot
you did pretty well with, on the positive side.
anyway shalom and enjoy Nature ...

todah. (thanks)


Thanks. Yeah...I should get hold of Skipp Porteous and see if Rataczak is back from his vacation in Mexico. I have some questions for Rataczak, yes.

Shalom.

It would be nice to know what Rat's current
statement is - for the record, so to speak.
Try if you can. Everyone would appreciste that!

Later. I think I will head to the woods asap too.
Thats a good idea ... needed...

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In an effort to rise from the valley of sniping and ascend to the plateau of research, can anyone point to s single written record that substantiates the Fazio's claim that a debris field of currency shards was found at Tena Bar? If something this significant were found wouldn't it likely be in FBI and expert reports?

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Documentation sure would be nice, wouldn't it, Three-Seven-Seven. Let me know when you find some, or get invited to the back room to see the files, or file an FOIA.

In the meantime, here's what I know. Everyone I know connected to the money retrieval tells a radically different story.

1. Al Fazio adamantly says that not a single shard was found buried; that every shard was on the surface along the tide line. Al's a great guy, but his comments to me have been inconsistent. Nevertheless, I feel that he is telling the truth as he remembers in the moment.

2. PIO Dorwin says that thousands of shards were found evenly buried to a depth of three feet for a radius of 20 yards from the main bundle, and were collected in plastic baggies. He also says they found part of the briefcase. Dorwin is a sweetheart and I have a standing invite to visit "anytime." I have never seen or heard of any shard-filled plastic baggies in anyone's evidentiary collection, however.

3. Ralph writes that a few shards were found to a depth of three feet. My four requests for an interview to review this information have been denied, and only when I evoked the persona of Jerry did I get any info.

4. SA McPheters (spelling?), former FBI and Anglican bishop but now a published author, says there were dozens of shards along the tide line down to the depth of his shovel, "1-2 feet deep." He clammed up when I pressed for more info.

Dat's what I got, dude. You?

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