howardwhite 6 #1 October 5, 2008 This series of pictures by the late Ralph White appeared in Sky Diver in 1964. Just people having fun.HW Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rover 11 #2 October 5, 2008 Looks like freeflying has been around longer than I thought..... 2 wrongs don't make a right - but 3 lefts do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybill 22 #3 October 6, 2008 Hi HW, God I love it!!!!!!!! Unfortunately Ralph wasn't around Louisiana back then, we were doing the same stuff. Very little air-to-air being shot back then, Kodak Brownie cameras couldn't stop the action, shutter speeds too low, SAT!! But we had fun anyway. Philthy Philip AKA "Cappy" Connors had a Cannon 35mm SLR that he hand held and got some good pix with circa '65- '66. Anybody that has stuff from back then is "priceless!!" The micro video, still, hand held, helmet mounts of today were the outer space fantasy of yesterday!!SCR-2034, SCS-680 III%, Deli-out Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phildthedildo 0 #4 October 6, 2008 IIRC, the caption says something like bulldoggin..shot over Lancaster Calif. Ralph White also shot quite a bit of the underwater fotage of the TITANIC.He passed away this past spring Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,365 #5 October 6, 2008 Hi howard, I think Ken Rounds on the left due to his wearing glasses. Don't remember the other guy, JerryBaumchen PS) I thought you said you never subscribed to SkyDiver. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zoobrothertom 5 #6 October 6, 2008 Looks like fun! Nowadays, there's no such thing as an after star or looping a 2 way at break off anymore.____________________________________ I'm back in the USA!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
howardwhite 6 #7 October 6, 2008 Quote I think Ken Rounds on the left due to his wearing glasses. Don't remember the other guy "The motorized Nikon stopped Don Henderson step by step hassling Ken Rounds." (Pix taken over Lancaster, CA). Quote PS) I thought you said you never subscribed to SkyDiver. I didn't. But other people did.There are two more or less complete sets in storage at Para-Gear awaiting the construction of the National Skydiving Museum. One came from Tony Fugit. There are also, I think, two pretty complete sets in the USPA library, one from Bill Ottley. They're fun to read. One ongoing theme is Lyle Cameron's ongoing war with most of what he perceived as an entrenched and corrupt bureaucracy at PCA headquarters. Another fascinating theme is his ongoing admiration for Jacques Istel. PCA/USPA politics then as now makes strange bedfollows. HW Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skypuppy 1 #8 October 6, 2008 Another fascinating theme is his ongoing admiration for Jacques Istel Howard == are you being fascetious -- I thought I heard they didn't get along....If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,365 #9 October 6, 2008 Hi howard, Re: what he perceived as an entrenched and corrupt bureaucracy at PCA headquarters. In late '63 Geo. Gividen (don't hold me to correct spelling on any of these names) was brought in from the east coast to be the new PCA Ex. Dir. Gividen found that Deke Sonnichsen (PCA Pres) and Bill Berry (Western Conf Dir) were running PCA for themselves. In the early spring of '64, on a Sunday, Sonnichsen & Berry came down to the PCA offices and changed the locks and fired Gividen. Norm Heaton who was the Ass't. Ex. Dir. was appointed Ex. Dir. (Who me????) and it was all covered up. Gividen went to Cameron and Lyle grabbed it and ran with it. Skullduggerry, I tells ya. JerryBaumchen PS) As for Istel & Cameron: What is that old saying about The enemy of my enemy is my friend? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guru312 0 #10 October 6, 2008 Quote Just people having fun. What great pictures. The tone and color fit the mood of what I remember it to be in the beginning when we didn't know how to fly. I spent lots of time trying to see someone...let alone to touch them or to hold on. Thanks for the memory. Maybe we need an anthology of pictures "Before We Learned to Fly"Guru312 I am not DB Cooper Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
howardwhite 6 #11 October 6, 2008 Quote are you being fascetious -- I thought I heard they didn't get along.... Back in the very old days (late 50s and early 60s), when Capt. Jacques Istel, USMC, was traveling around the country promoting parachuting (mostly to college clubs), the west coast jumpers sneered at this rich east coast guy, with his rules and regulations and wussy ideas like sleeves on canopies. (The east vs. west culture story is worth a book in itself). But in the early 70s, Cameron and Istel were kind of thrust to the same side. Cameron was tossed off the USPA board and Istel was stripped of the title of "Honorary Lifetime President." Both went on the offensive -- Cameron in Sky Diver and Istel in TNT ("Truth,News, Trends")--a newspaper he launched largely to attack USPA. And Cameron wrote several long stories in praise of JAI. Cameron's gone, but Istel isn't. Maybe next time I spend some time with him, I'll see if he wants to talk about Cameron. HW Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drjump 0 #12 October 7, 2008 "Combat" RW, motorcycle helmets required! Ah, the good old days when skydiving was dangerous and sex was safe. Thanks for the memories, Howard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites