mjosparky 4 #1 November 6, 2008 How many remember when this was the way an exit was “pulled” out? A single file DC-3 exit. A single file DC-3 exit. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltdiver 3 #2 November 6, 2008 Quote How many remember when this was the way an exit was “pulled” out? A single file DC-3 exit. A single file DC-3 exit.Sparky No wonder it took so long for the first RW formations? > ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fastphil 0 #3 November 6, 2008 And when you exited 40th you had a long and fast dive ahead... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #4 November 6, 2008 "Right foot forward! NO! Left foot forward! Back Straight! Squat Down! Shuffle, shuffle! Don't touch the door!" But, a good friend was killed at Freak Brothers in 1985 hitting the door and getting knocked out exiting a small door DC3 second from last of about 28. Guy behind her claims he didn't see anything. Hard to believe. Of course no AOD's (no typo, that's what they were called then). edited based on Howard correcting my memory I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
howardwhite 6 #5 November 6, 2008 QuoteOf course no ADD's (no typo, that's what they were called then). Hmm, I know AOD, but I don't remember ADD. HW Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #6 November 6, 2008 Your right Howard, I knew it didn't look right when I typed it. I was thinking Automatic deployment device but it was automatic opening device. The industry (airtec) didn't like to imply opening, only activation.I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,439 #7 November 6, 2008 Quotea good friend was killed at Freak Brothers in 1985 hitting the door and getting knocked out exiting a small door DC3 I can imagine. I broke a helmet under similar circumstances in the late 70's. Knew I'd hit the door, and the front of it had a 3" crack in it. I've pretty much always jumped with a helmet since then. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #8 November 6, 2008 She had on a frap hat, of course. Most of the DZ's experienced jumpers were on the load. Lots of folks said they were going to get Protecs, and some AOD's. AFAIK not one helmet or AOD was added because of her death.I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #9 November 6, 2008 Quote And when you exited 40th you had a long and fast dive ahead... You aint kidding. Last time I did that was 11 years ago at a 4th of July Skydive Chicago big way camp when they were doing formation loads with Mr Douglas and their two Otters. I miss shuffling in the longest line, but definitely not front floating the goddamn thing. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bozo 0 #10 November 6, 2008 QuoteShe had on a frap hat, of course. Most of the DZ's experienced jumpers were on the load. Lots of folks said they were going to get Protecs, and some AOD's. AFAIK not one helmet or AOD was added because of her death. I was in that plane , in the group behind them. We were questioned as to whether we heard a bang as they exited or saw anything. Nobody heard anything. extraordinary. As I remember the conclusion was that her neck was broken not by a bang against the door but more of a push past the door , by the folks behind. bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grimmie 186 #11 November 6, 2008 The days of 10 way speed out the door! The last 2 or 3 jumpers would be airborne before getting to the door! Many a jumper had "door bite" in those days. I miss jumping "Our Douglas' at Perris. Sparky, where is Jan flying it now? I saw him at Long Beach Airport once with it about 10 years ago. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #12 November 6, 2008 Quote "Right foot forward! NO! Left foot forward! Back Straight! Squat Down! Shuffle, shuffle! Don't touch the door!" Reach forward and hold onto the sides of the container - no, not the person directly in front of you, nor the one in front of them, but the next person ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #13 November 6, 2008 yep, that was on the list too. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
niu 0 #14 November 6, 2008 Like it was yesterday,but it most definitely was not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #15 November 6, 2008 Quote Quote "Right foot forward! NO! Left foot forward! Back Straight! Squat Down! Shuffle, shuffle! Don't touch the door!" Reach forward and hold onto the sides of the container - no, not the person directly in front of you, nor the one in front of them, but the next person Yeah...try that bein' 6'4" 240# and wearin' a wart! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,439 #16 November 6, 2008 QuoteAs I remember the conclusion was that her neck was broken not by a bang against the door but more of a push past the door , by the folks behindI'm 5'4", and don't really have to duck that much to go out the door; just a little. Which means that pushing on my butt has some tendency to straighten me up a little bit (try it -- it's kind of a normal thing to do). I'm pretty sure that's what happened when I hit the door, and I'm equally sure it didn't make that much of a noise. I was really glad to have worn a hockey helmet that day. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
patmoore 14 #17 November 6, 2008 One of my favorite photos (I wish I had been looking at the camera!) was taken over Zephyrhills in the early 70's. A window was missing over the wing of the DC-3 and someone stuck a camera out of it. I was first to go in a mass exit and was trying to give the folks behind me plenty of room.DZGone.com B-4600, C-3615, D-1814, Gold Wings #326, Diamond Wings #152. If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much room! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtime1 2 #18 November 7, 2008 I loved being on the tail of a "tarantula" exit. Sqatted down with inside leg strap grips on the person in front, on "g' of "go", hop slightly straight up and find yourself out the door. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueSBDeath 2 #19 November 7, 2008 I do!!! Arvel BSBD...........Its all about Respect, USPA#-7062, FB-2197, Outlaw 499 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HurlinGirlie 0 #20 November 8, 2008 At the recent US Nationals at Elroy one of the pilots flying there was able to convince the 10-way teams and the judges to run the last round of the 10-way speed formation competition into changing the final formation to a star and putting the teams out of the DC-3 with a no show, no grips exit. Watching the videos of the teams' exits and swoops was hilarious. There were no new record times scored. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #21 November 8, 2008 That pilots name wouldn't happen to be Zing now would it? SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #22 November 8, 2008 Quote At the recent US Nationals at Elroy one of the pilots flying there was able to convince the 10-way teams and the judges to run the last round of the 10-way speed formation competition into changing the final formation to a star and putting the teams out of the DC-3 with a no show, no grips exit. Watching the videos of the teams' exits and swoops was hilarious. There were no new record times scored. I've been waiting to do that for the longest time and I missed it!---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #23 November 8, 2008 Quote I've been waiting to do that for the longest time and I missed it! It a lost art. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #24 November 8, 2008 Quote Quote I've been waiting to do that for the longest time and I missed it! It a lost art. Sparky Thank God... ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreenLight 7 #25 November 8, 2008 Well I remember a single file snake of sorts. The last person was really kinda next to the door facing the front of the plane and ran to the front, made the turn and then back towards the door again. But I never minded being front float when we did decide against a no show exit.Green Light "Harry, why did you land all the way out there? Nobody else landed out there." "Your statement answered your question." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites