T10PCM1 0 #1 March 7, 2009 I made two static line jumps with a MK I Para-Commander at the Tar Heel Sport Parachute Center, Trinity, NC. July 4, 1971 and July 11, 1971. The late William H. "Bill" Womble II who was killed on a tandum jump in 1986 in CT was my JM. R. H. Capps was the other JM. These were my 7th & 8th jumps. The 6th jump with a T-10 had been a tree landing way past the target. The first jump on the PC I almost touched the disc in the sawdust pile! Guess we done things a bit different back then. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #2 March 7, 2009 We use to static line an old guy (70+) back in the late 1970's with a Mk.1 P.C. I bet he made a couple hundred S/L--PC jumps over the years....He had some arthritis concerns and didn't trust himself to pull but still wanted 'The Ride'! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccurley 1 #3 March 7, 2009 I dropped hundreds of students on static lined PCs while working as a JM at Toogoolawha Queensland in the 80s. Had to jump one as a pretend student during the Jump masters course as well. After hundreds of jumps on squares I had forgotten how long those lines were Watch my video Fat Women http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRWkEky8GoI Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gkc1436 3 #4 March 7, 2009 Static line a PC off my leg strap? Yes..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
efs4ever 3 #5 March 8, 2009 My fourth jump. I had already bought it for $200.00. I put a hundred more after that. My first "stable" freefall on it was from about 8k. I backed up a couple of miles to the peas. No chit. (my log is online... look it up)Russell M. Webb D 7014 Attorney at Law 713 385 5676 https://www.tdcparole.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lekstrom10k 0 #6 March 8, 2009 As Para-Hawks from 1972 at Salem Mi then on to Marine City until 1979 or 1980 all students trained on them. It really pissed off Harold Lange at Tecumseh because all he had was stolen Army T-10s. Most of his jumpmasters didnt have them.We started attaching to the sleeves with the velcro PC assist. Later we went to D-Bags. We got everyones old 1964,s with the blue nose and red and white. It was easy to see which way they were facing even if they didnt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ripcord4 0 #7 March 8, 2009 Made several for myself as fun jumps and dropped hundreds of jumpers as students on the S/L PC's. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
howardwhite 6 #8 March 8, 2009 Never jumped a S/L PC but sure put out a lot of them at Orange, Turners Falls and Pepperell, MA, among other places. HW Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegrump 0 #9 March 9, 2009 Made my first jump on a mark 1 I had bought In 77. My instructor was a close friend that lived just across the street. He trained me for 2 weeks I even packed for the jump. Man did it ever hit the fan when the DZ owner who was also the pilot look out the door after my friend jumpmastered me then followed me out, and saw 2 PC's. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #10 March 9, 2009 Quote really pissed off Harold Lange at Tecumseh because all he had was stolen Army T-10s. On man, there is a name I haven't heard for years. My jumping started in Southern MI and Northern IN. We knew lots of stories about old Harold, even though we never met him."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerRamjet 0 #11 March 9, 2009 We used them at Miami Glider Port in 74/75. I never jumped one, but certainly dropped a number of students using them. ----------------------- Roger "Ramjet" Clark FB# 271, SCR 3245, SCS 1519 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #12 March 9, 2009 I IADed hundreds of students in Waterville, Nova Scotia and CFB Baden, West Germany. They all wore Para-Commanders. All but one opened great. Thank God Saint Francis Xavier Chevrier was on duty that day! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lucky508 0 #13 March 10, 2009 I still do it about 10 times a year with the WWII Airborne Demonstration team. I’ll put out a stick of jumpers in the C-47 jumping -1B’s or -1C’s, clear the tail and then follow them out. I either have the PC in the sleeve S folded in a military container set up with a SL pilot chute assist or in the original container with the SL installed using 3 strands of the inner cords from 550 tied off at each cone and the SL pilot chute assist . This way I get to jump a PC and not a -1. It helps make the DZ sometimes since I’m tail end Charlie getting out of the bird. It’s also fun to fly buy all the guys in military canopies in my “high performance” parachute! HAHA! ATW, Cael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve1 5 #14 March 10, 2009 Quoteor in the original container with the SL installed using 3 strands of the inner cords from 550 tied off at each cone and the SL pilot chute assist . I remember packing student static line rigs, back in the early 70's this way. IF I REMEMBER RIGHT??? we used one of the inner strands (of 550 cord) per cone. The end of the static line was tied to the pilot chute with another strand. Never had a problem. I also jumped with the National Guard in the early 70's. Things were pretty loose to say the least back then. Sometimes I'd wear my frenchies and do a standup under a T-10 (instead of a PLF). Of course, this was a big "no, no". Nothing big ever came of it though. Most ranking sargents and officers had a ton of respect for anyone who was also a skydiver. I'd never try a stunt like that in the regular army though..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,422 #15 March 11, 2009 Quote This way I get to jump a PC and not a -1. It helps make the DZ sometimes since I’m tail end Charlie getting out of the bird. It’s also fun to fly buy all the guys in military canopies in my “high performance” parachute! HAHA! Don't be surprised if the next time you jump with them; you've got a T-10 Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lucky508 0 #16 March 12, 2009 Bigun, I heard it through the grapevine from some guys I’ll call Captain Morgan and Yardbird that your are conspiring to make my T-10 jump a reality. I’ll have you know that I already have more T-10 jumps than I ever wanted. Nice try though. As a consolation prize I’ll relate this story and photo. I have accidently jumped a -1Bravo that was marked as t a-1Charlie. I’m sure glad it was winter time with cold dense air and not July in Oklahoma when I did that. Attached is a pic of one of my boot prints from the landing. Remember that stinging sensation in your feet from a landing like that? I’ll bet you do! ATW, Cael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ripcord4 0 #17 March 12, 2009 How come I only see one bootprint? What ever happened to "Feet & knees together"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickDG 23 #18 March 12, 2009 We static lined a lot of PCs at the old Ramona DZ in So Cal. There are a few in this vid . . . http://www.dropzone.com/videos/Exits/Door_Time_For_Students_69.html NickD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #19 March 12, 2009 Dude, that is so 1960's...... you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skypuppy 1 #20 March 16, 2009 I started on static=lined Sierras, but when I moved to Coldwater we were using pc and similar type of parachutes. Normally there, if I jumped a round I would use a freefall rig, but a couple of years ago I borrowed one of the rigs and put it together just to check it out again. The s/l was attached to the pilot chute with velcro (pilot chute assist). I've put a bit of weight on in the intervening years, and rolled the landing out, but it wasn't too bad. This is a Niagara Parachutes Cobra in a pioneer sport pack with a 23' tri-con in a front=mounted reserve borrowed from Bill chuteless Cole.If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccurley 1 #21 March 16, 2009 My first rig was a niagara parachutes set I bought from my father after me broke both his ankles going down wind into the pit at Port Severn. The next year we moved to Coldwater, I think it was 75. When I bought my next set a gear from Eddie at Niagara I sold my 3pin container and the Cobra main in it to Frank Arko to use as student gear. You probably jumped it!! White front, red sides and multi coloured back. I don't have any pictures of it. My brother managed to lose all my photos of Coldwater. I had quite a good collection up to 1980 when I took off for Aussie.Watch my video Fat Women http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRWkEky8GoI Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites