dqpacker 7 #1 March 27, 2009 For anyone who ever jumped the Beaver at Baldwin, Here's what it looks like now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccurley 1 #2 March 27, 2009 what a cool lookin planeWatch my video Fat Women http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRWkEky8GoI Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lodestar 0 #3 March 27, 2009 Put me down for one of the new ones........ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PROGRESSIVE 0 #4 March 27, 2009 Back in the early 80's, I had a handful of jumps from this aircraft. One word...Loud! We flew a formation load and built a 10 way. I'll have to look at my log book to see who was on it, but the formation flew surprisingly well. Which was a rare occasion back then. Pete Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,314 #5 March 28, 2009 Help me undertand the tail number change, please. Change of ownership, design,...?Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dqpacker 7 #6 March 28, 2009 Change of ownership. I thought the same when I first saw it too. But got info from a jumper that works at Whip Air were the rebuild was done. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveJack 1 #7 March 28, 2009 My wife used to fly that Beaver. Thanks for the photo! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccurley 1 #8 March 28, 2009 well it looks like it's been conmverted to a turbo, so probaly had a complete overhaul of the airframe as well. Maybee this makes it a "new" aircraft? Change of ownership dosn't require a new number does it?Watch my video Fat Women http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRWkEky8GoI Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murrays 0 #9 March 28, 2009 Is changing the number an optional thing or is it required only in certain circumstances?-- Murray "No tyranny is so irksome as petty tyranny: the officious demands of policemen, government clerks, and electromechanical gadgets." - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,314 #10 March 28, 2009 Well, being a PPL myself had never really heard of the N number changing, but according to Wiki... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircraft_registration It's really more "like" a license plate than it is a VIN. A new owner "can" change it, but does not have to, a design change, etc. New info for me also. Very informative article to include a country table towards the bottom.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveJack 1 #11 March 28, 2009 QuoteIs changing the number an optional thing or is it required only in certain circumstances? Normally it is just optional. Sometimes, the previous owner of an aircraft wants’ to keep an N number because it has some history or meaning to them. A company I once worked for sold an older business jet, kept the N number, and put it on the new replacement jet. In fact, they have carried the same N numbers for decades. They can also pay to keep numbers reserved only for them, even if they aren't currently using them. In situations like this the purchaser of the old aircraft has to get a new N number. They can get a random one or request a specific one if it is available. Sometimes the owner of an aircraft wants to change the N number to something that means something to them. It's much like a vanity plate for your car. Often the letters will be someone’s initials or a company's initials. I have seen it where the numbers were actually the birth date of an owner’s child or grandchild. For the last year my wife has been involved with a group restoring an antique aircraft. She did some research and found out what the aircrafts original N number was. Over the years it had changed. The group wanted to try and get the original N number for historical accuracy. It turned out that this N number had been assigned to another aircraft. My wife contacted the owner and he agreed to transfer the N number to the restoration group. In this case they were lucky. The aircraft with the number they wanted had been damaged beyond repair so the group simply had to pay some small fees to the FAA in order to transfer the N number. If the aircraft with the number they wanted was airworthy, they probably would have had to pay for some repainting to put the replacement number on the donor aircraft. That is of course, only if the owner of that N number was willing to do it. Hope this makes sense. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pms07 3 #12 March 28, 2009 I jumped the Beaver at Baldwin back in the mid-late 70s when Iverson ran the DZ and I lived in northern Wisconsin. Not sure it's the same plane in the photo however as I recall he bought more than one. Anyway, I jumped from the Beaver in the photo while back home on leave, about 1984 or 85 I think. I have a photo of my Dad and I (he was going for an observer ride) as we boarded for a jump that shows it's NI7391. Thanks for the memory! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjumpenfool 2 #13 March 29, 2009 QuoteI jumped the Beaver at Baldwin back in the mid-late 70s when Iverson ran the DZ and I lived in northern Wisconsin. "Iverson"!!! Wow, there's a name from the past... I don't think Randy ever owned that bird. The Beaver belonged to Mike Haden, I believe. Mike just sold it a while ago and it ended up at Whip Air. Good luck to the new owner! That Bird holds many great memories. Most of us jumpers from the upper midwest have stories to tell. I would love another ride. I bet 8 way exits would be great from those big wheel covers....Birdshit & Fools Productions "Son, only two things fall from the sky." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pms07 3 #14 March 29, 2009 You might be correct on Haden ownership as the real business end of the drop zone was not something I would know much about. At the time there was a fairly sizeable group that moved from one DZ to another, dependent on where there was a larger or multiple aircraft. Baldwin was a popular place on Wednesday nights during the summer (circa 77-78) because the Beaver would take 8 to altitude, assuming you weren't in a hurry. Yeah, 8-way exits are fun from the Beaver... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MakeItHappen 15 #15 March 29, 2009 Quote Yeah, 8-way exits are fun from the Beaver... Sounds like Octamom .. Make It Happen Parachute History DiveMaker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pms07 3 #16 March 30, 2009 Quote Quote Yeah, 8-way exits are fun from the Beaver... Sounds like Octamom . Damn it Jan, I just spit some good napa cabernet on the monitor thinking about the "beaver exit octamom" deal. Maybe I just need to need to be more careful about "exiting the beaver" comments... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WGore 0 #17 March 30, 2009 Yeh that was Mike's Beaver and from what I understand he sold it to Whip Air. Never flew one of the turbine Beavers but have several thousand hours in a radial and still think it is a nice ride, albeit loud. Those engines were designed to be out on the wings as far away from the fuselage as possible.GUNFIRE, The sound of Freedom! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveJack 1 #18 March 30, 2009 Quote Quote Yeah, 8-way exits are fun from the Beaver... Sounds like Octamom . What else would you expect from a 450 horsepower Beaver? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dqpacker 7 #19 March 30, 2009 Here's a few clips I have of the Beaver and it's roar. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1-ZJ1wv0HI Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjumpenfool 2 #20 March 31, 2009 What I always liked best is when the buzz job came from (the east)over the corn in late August. The sound was muffled until that big radial cleared the corn. Thanks for the video DQ!Birdshit & Fools Productions "Son, only two things fall from the sky." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WGore 0 #21 March 31, 2009 QuoteHere's a few clips I have of the Beaver and it's roar. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1-ZJ1wv0HI Got to love that radial growl! Although the neighbors around our old DZ weren't quite as appreciative of that sound especiaally after we put the longer prop on it. It was noisey, I could here it starting down the runway from my house more than 2 miles away.GUNFIRE, The sound of Freedom! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #22 March 31, 2009 QuoteFor anyone who ever jumped the Beaver at Baldwin, Here's what it looks like now. thanks for the pics, DQ. That was a fun plane. I had no idea that Bubba had it for so many years (decades) ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keithbar 1 #23 April 3, 2009 why is the shape of the rear window different? do they lengthen the bird in the turbine conversion?i have on occasion been accused of pulling low . My response. Naw I wasn't low I'm just such a big guy I look closer than I really am . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dqpacker 7 #24 April 3, 2009 Yep and you can fit two more jumpers in it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjumpenfool 2 #25 April 4, 2009 Quote Yep and you can fit two more jumpers in it. ... and, with all the new mods, they'll be charging about $3,249.00 to 10,500ft. But, they'll be serving chapaign in flight. Oh, and where did the canvas/velcro door go. I hope they didn't loose it, that bird gets cold in Wisconsin after November...Birdshit & Fools Productions "Son, only two things fall from the sky." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites