StevieBoy 0 #1 March 1, 2002 Just a thought???What's the lowest altitude your pilot chute should leave the safe grasp of your little pinkie's for a full canopy @ 2500ft,When I pull my mind is on the canopy first, control checks etc, if it's a bag of shit I'm doing Silver.Any tecno info very much appriciated "Skydiving's a source, it'll change your life, swear to God" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #2 March 1, 2002 Depends on the opening characteristics of the particular canopy.Some canopies open faster, some open more slowly.quadehttp://futurecam.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveMonkey 0 #3 March 1, 2002 Depends on the canopy, packing method, etc. You shouldn't put a knife in the toaster - but you're an adult now !!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #4 March 1, 2002 Generally speaking.... to have a ful canopy by 2500.... you need to let go of the PC no lower then 3000. 3200 would ensure it with a moderate opening and 3400 for a really slow opening.Cause I don't wanna come back down from this cloud... ~ Bush Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StevieBoy 0 #5 March 1, 2002 OKI wave at 3k, stall for a moment, just for the view, (5 sec).I'm on a rented pd 210, Any ideas how long before I'm under full canopy, most times I look I'm at 1600ft (enough for the chop), but before that I ain't got a clue "Skydiving's a source, it'll change your life, swear to God" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #6 March 1, 2002 QuoteI'm on a rented pd 210, Any ideas how long before I'm under full canopy, most times I look I'm at 1600ft . . .Unless you have more experience than your posts are showing, you probably should consider tossing out a bit higher.quadehttp://futurecam.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StevieBoy 0 #7 March 1, 2002 "I'm on a rented pd 210, Any ideas how long before I'm under full canopy, most times I look I'm at 1600ft (enough for the chop), but before that I ain't got a clue"*I've done my checks by then.* "Skydiving's a source, it'll change your life, swear to God" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #8 March 1, 2002 Well...if you wait 5 seconds after 3K that should put around 2100-2200 ft. On that 210 I'm gonna guess it opens in 400-500 Ft. My PD 190 is pretty consistant at that.If you dumped by 3K that should put you open at 2500. I mean let go of the P/C at 3K. Thats what I do and I often hear my 2500 alarm on my Time Out go off as I'm getting full inflation. "I only have a C license, so I don't know shit..right?"-Clay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #9 March 1, 2002 You probally are under a Full canopy at between 2000 and 2200 depending on how long you pause. Anything over a second after a wave off at 3000 and its 2200 or lower.Getting kinda low there unless you like kicking out of line twists as you go through 1500.....My hard deck with a canopy is 1600. If its not a full canopy, its gone.....Cause I don't wanna come back down from this cloud... ~ Bush Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #10 March 1, 2002 QuoteGetting kinda low thereHe's old school. Nobody opened above 1500 back in the day....."I only have a C license, so I don't know shit..right?"-Clay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #11 March 1, 2002 Getting low with a mal on a round was an easy fix... wither relaese the capewells and pop the chest mount reserve, or just hand feed the chest mount oppsite the spin until it inflated....Going low with a bad ram-air is bad.....very bad Cause I don't wanna come back down from this cloud... ~ Bush Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #12 March 1, 2002 QuoteGoing low with a bad ram-air is bad.....very badYeah...but old habits die hard....I like opening at 3k...Altitude is my friend."I only have a C license, so I don't know shit..right?"-Clay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nws01 0 #13 March 1, 2002 I have a Spectre that snivels a long way and I make sure I am open at 2k. Even after larger rw's I do a barrell track and am always clear by 2,8k to deploy. Sounds to me like you are waiting too long. The only way to find out is when your Cypres opens and you have two canopies. Pick a harddeck and maintain it. Especially being new.Nathan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StevieBoy 0 #14 March 1, 2002 "Unless you have more experience than your posts are showing, you probably should consider tossing out a bit higher."I'm ready for silver from when I throw & by at LEAST 1600ft after ALL CHECKS if not a little higher, I would like to know the tec info of what I'm doing if you have any.Sometimes it just take the infornation for you to adjust, but right now I feel safe."Skydiving's a source, it'll change your life, swear to God" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #15 March 1, 2002 Lets see.... not cutting away till 1600, probally no RSL, freefall till 1500, hit the reserve, reserve does'nt inflate till 1000...OR taking too long on the clearence check or working on a mal like a line over on the outter cell, tension knot, hung slider.... suddenly you find your self at 1000 feet, a cutaway here means the best is 800 feet and the worst is 300 feet or so for the reserve to open.Is 300/1000 feet really when you want to start learning how to fly/land a new canopy?I personally dump at 3500 and am in the sable by 2800. I've burned it low a few times on purpose, but try not to make a habit of it...Cause I don't wanna come back down from this cloud... ~ Bush Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrumpySmurf 0 #16 March 1, 2002 Amen to that. It's your best friend - right after your main/reserve. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkydiveMonkey 0 #17 March 1, 2002 Thought the rules say that you're supposed to be under your main canopy by 2000 anyway? You shouldn't put a knife in the toaster - but you're an adult now !!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites StevieBoy 0 #18 March 1, 2002 I hope to buy a 190 soon ( not sure which canopy yet), what is safe alti to release (max) that gives enough time to switch on to potential mal's, I find I give myself too much play at pull time (after this thread)"Skydiving's a source, it'll change your life, swear to God" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nws01 0 #19 March 1, 2002 The best bet is if you are going to get a new canopy, do a hop and pop or pull way high a few times to find out your average opening rate. Do not go down to 2,000 on a new canopy or really any canopy for that matter. Why are you going so low. The difference between pulling at 3k and 2k are just a few seconds. Do not let those seconds kill you due to a malfunction. Have you had a mal before. If not you really do not know how you will handle it so always leave room for errors.Nathan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites StevieBoy 0 #20 March 1, 2002 OKFrom now on I WILL pull at 3000 no matter WHAT(situations permitted,ie safety), thanks for all your info, I may have been a little reckless before, but that's just down to lack of information.CHEERS GUY'S"Skydiving's a source, it'll change your life, swear to God" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 2,991 #21 March 1, 2002 >The best bet is if you are going to get a new canopy, do a hop and pop . . .Warning: a hop and pop will not tell you what to expect from a terminal opening. Your opening will take longer, but open in a shorter distance, during a hop and pop.>or pull way high a few times to find out your average opening rate. This seems like a better idea.-bill von Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nws01 0 #22 March 1, 2002 Good catch Bill.Thanks,Nathan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites StevieBoy 0 #23 March 1, 2002 "Have you had a mal before. If not you really do not know how you will handle it so always leave room for errors."Yes I have, & I landed alive, when I jump I swich on, I know my limit's, I do what I feel safe doing, after reading this thread I know I will become a little more cautious, that's why I asked my question.Once again, Thanks Guy's"Skydiving's a source, it'll change your life, swear to God" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
SkydiveMonkey 0 #17 March 1, 2002 Thought the rules say that you're supposed to be under your main canopy by 2000 anyway? You shouldn't put a knife in the toaster - but you're an adult now !!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StevieBoy 0 #18 March 1, 2002 I hope to buy a 190 soon ( not sure which canopy yet), what is safe alti to release (max) that gives enough time to switch on to potential mal's, I find I give myself too much play at pull time (after this thread)"Skydiving's a source, it'll change your life, swear to God" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nws01 0 #19 March 1, 2002 The best bet is if you are going to get a new canopy, do a hop and pop or pull way high a few times to find out your average opening rate. Do not go down to 2,000 on a new canopy or really any canopy for that matter. Why are you going so low. The difference between pulling at 3k and 2k are just a few seconds. Do not let those seconds kill you due to a malfunction. Have you had a mal before. If not you really do not know how you will handle it so always leave room for errors.Nathan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StevieBoy 0 #20 March 1, 2002 OKFrom now on I WILL pull at 3000 no matter WHAT(situations permitted,ie safety), thanks for all your info, I may have been a little reckless before, but that's just down to lack of information.CHEERS GUY'S"Skydiving's a source, it'll change your life, swear to God" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #21 March 1, 2002 >The best bet is if you are going to get a new canopy, do a hop and pop . . .Warning: a hop and pop will not tell you what to expect from a terminal opening. Your opening will take longer, but open in a shorter distance, during a hop and pop.>or pull way high a few times to find out your average opening rate. This seems like a better idea.-bill von Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nws01 0 #22 March 1, 2002 Good catch Bill.Thanks,Nathan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StevieBoy 0 #23 March 1, 2002 "Have you had a mal before. If not you really do not know how you will handle it so always leave room for errors."Yes I have, & I landed alive, when I jump I swich on, I know my limit's, I do what I feel safe doing, after reading this thread I know I will become a little more cautious, that's why I asked my question.Once again, Thanks Guy's"Skydiving's a source, it'll change your life, swear to God" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
