keithbar 1 #1 February 2, 2011 who's ever jumped a single otter? i watch a lot of hunting shows and have seen at least 4 diff. turbine converted otters and a couple of radial single otters on floats. on recent hunting shows but don't know anyone who's ever jumped one . surely someone's got one in their logbook. anyone buller?i have on occasion been accused of pulling low . My response. Naw I wasn't low I'm just such a big guy I look closer than I really am . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #2 February 2, 2011 Skydive Texas was running a single engine otter for a good while before they crashed it on take off a few years ago.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drjump 0 #3 February 2, 2011 I've got one jump out of Sky Dive Texas's single engine otter, in Nov. of 20000 It had the Garrett turbine conversion produced by Bobby Bishop of north Texas. More flight efficent and economical than a Twin Otter. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveJack 1 #4 February 2, 2011 In the mid 1980's a club over in Swedwn bought a turboprop Beaver and it turned out to be a great jump ship. So a year or two later another club over there bought a turboprop single Otter. It too turned out to be a great jump plane. I think it took 16 or 17 jumpers. I'm not sure if they still have them but I expect they do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #5 February 2, 2011 Back in the early 80's, Skydive Titusville, Florida, had a radial engine single Otter for a while, which was already set up for jumping as it was previously used by paratroops in South America somewhere. It climbed like a snail. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
usedtajump 1 #6 February 2, 2011 The last jump I ever made was out of the same turbine Otter that Aggie Dave described.The older I get the less I care who I piss off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keithbar 1 #7 February 3, 2011 great thanks for all the reply's guys. I've got a bunch of radial engine beaver jumps. and of course twin otter jumps but i'd love to get a single otter just to complete the set i have on occasion been accused of pulling low . My response. Naw I wasn't low I'm just such a big guy I look closer than I really am . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vanair 0 #8 February 3, 2011 Cool old plane the Norseman. Jumped out of in mid 70s, Orange Mass. Didn't want to take in past 4,000', Snail of all climbing snails but cool plane. Was banned from Lakewood NJ for noise. Prop tips broke sound barrier. Can't believe how loud is was, had to hear to believe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WGore 0 #9 February 3, 2011 The Beaver Keith mentioned was the same way. I could hear it going down the runway from my house and I lived 2+ miles away. It wasn't very popular with some of the locals either, especially the lady who owned the bed & breakfast under the takeoff flight path. The Golden Knights had an Otter way back. When I was stationed at Ft. Knox we would request the Otter every week for the parachute club but they never gave it to us. We got the Beaver a couple times but being a leg post they weren't really to interested in supporting the club. Fortunately we had an FBO not too far away that rented the club an airplane for what was a pretty reasonable price at the time. We could go to 7500 for about $2.50 IIRC.GUNFIRE, The sound of Freedom! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spiker 1 #10 February 3, 2011 Back in the early 60'S The Fort Hood Skydivers use to jump one at the fort and we even took one to the nationals in 62. The only thing I miss about jumping rounds is getting driven into the ground like a stake. POP'S 9817 SOS 1172 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keithbar 1 #11 February 4, 2011 I love the sound of a radial in the morning. i have on occasion been accused of pulling low . My response. Naw I wasn't low I'm just such a big guy I look closer than I really am . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hellis 0 #12 February 5, 2011 Quote In the mid 1980's a club over in Swedwn bought a turboprop Beaver and it turned out to be a great jump ship. So a year or two later another club over there bought a turboprop single Otter. It too turned out to be a great jump plane. I think it took 16 or 17 jumpers. I'm not sure if they still have them but I expect they do. You are correct, it is a very nice jumpplane. But a single engine otter with 16-17 jumpers? I know of two Otters in Sweden. One is in Gryttjom (Stockholm) but thats a Twin Otter, that houses 22 jumpers. Never jumped that plane, just know it exist. And the other is a DHC-2 Single Otter that runs at Everöd dropzone. This plane is a turboprop with a 750 HP enging (if i remebers correct) that takes 10 jumpers. I probably have about 100 jumps from this plane. There could be others, but i have not heard of any other Otters in Sweden Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveJack 1 #13 February 5, 2011 QuoteQuote In the mid 1980's a club over in Swedwn bought a turboprop Beaver and it turned out to be a great jump ship. So a year or two later another club over there bought a turboprop single Otter. It too turned out to be a great jump plane. I think it took 16 or 17 jumpers. I'm not sure if they still have them but I expect they do. You are correct, it is a very nice jumpplane. But a single engine otter with 16-17 jumpers? I know of two Otters in Sweden. One is in Gryttjom (Stockholm) but thats a Twin Otter, that houses 22 jumpers. Never jumped that plane, just know it exist. And the other is a DHC-2 Single Otter that runs at Everöd dropzone. This plane is a turboprop with a 750 HP enging (if i remebers correct) that takes 10 jumpers. I probably have about 100 jumps from this plane. There could be others, but i have not heard of any other Otters in Sweden The DCH-2 is a Beaver, not an Otter. I think it might have been the Aros Club in Vestarose(sp?) that had the Turboprop Single Otter. I jumped it at a Mid-Summer Boogie in Orsa and a Boogie on the island of Maribo in the Baltic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,426 #14 February 5, 2011 Hi Jack, I've been in Ralph Hatley's Beaver a number of times with eight jumpers and it is like being in a sardine can. The turbine-powered Beaver that I jumped, in '90 in Australia, had an extended fuselage and it held 10 jumpers with much more breathing room. JerryBaumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveJack 1 #15 February 5, 2011 Hi Jerry, I jumped the turboprop Beaver in Sweden many times. And we flew with 10 in it, no problem. And there was a turboprop single Otter over there as well. I have jumped it and flown it from the right seat. I seem to recall it carried 16 to 17 jumpers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wenger 0 #16 February 7, 2011 I have at least 2,000 out of the Golden Knight's Otter from 74 - 80. Which means I have alot of time sitting in the back climbing to altitude. They were a great airplane but not know for a fast climb with a single 650hp (P&W 1340)engine in front. Owned a beaver for a couple of years, loved flying it but again a slow climb to altitude. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WGore 0 #17 February 7, 2011 Quote I love the sound of a radial in the morning. I agree Keith but I doubt it will happen. He hasn't finished getting it ready to sell yet, hasn't flown since October 07. It would be a great airplane for our new DZ in Springfield. I would sure like to fly it one more time for grins and giggles. A slow climber but a hell of lot nicer to sit in all day than a Cessna. You guys are cramped up but not the pilot.GUNFIRE, The sound of Freedom! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keithbar 1 #18 February 8, 2011 hey as long as i was in MY spot. so we had the beef to the front the beaver was cool. me against the firewall. skinny guys on the bench it was all good.i have on occasion been accused of pulling low . My response. Naw I wasn't low I'm just such a big guy I look closer than I really am . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WGore 0 #19 February 15, 2011 Quotehey as long as i was in MY spot. so we had the beef to the front the beaver was cool. me against the firewall. skinny guys on the bench it was all good. Yeh that was always my favorite slot as well, really pretty comfortable compared to some of the other seats.GUNFIRE, The sound of Freedom! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
upndownshop 0 #20 February 16, 2011 QuoteSkydive Texas was running a single engine otter for a good while before they crashed it on take off a few years ago. Yup, jumped Tom Bishop's single engine otter. one of the side windows blew out of it on climb up in January! Brrrr Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
niu 0 #21 February 16, 2011 Yes,at the parachute club in Västerås. Max load was 18,min 10. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveJack 1 #22 February 16, 2011 QuoteYes,at the parachute club in Västerås. Max load was 18,min 10. That's right, the single-engine turboprop Otter was the club in Västerås, Sweden. Does the culb still have it? If not, where is it now? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
niu 0 #23 February 16, 2011 They have a Caravan now,no idea where SE-KOX is nowadays. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
david3 0 #24 February 17, 2011 QuoteThey have a Caravan now,no idea where SE-KOX is nowadays. http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?do=post_reply_write;quote=1;parent_post_id=4060909 Quote406 C-FHAH. Vazar. After many years service in Europe with a Swedish parachute club, registered SE-KOX, the Otter was purchased by Wipaire in February 2005 and ferried to its base at St.Paul, Minnesota as N406H. It was then sold to Harbour Air in Vancouver and registered to its new owners as C-FHAH in January 2006. It was ferried to Vancouver in March 2006 and having been overhauled and repainted it entered service with Harbour Air, fleet number 314. The opportunity arose to place the Otter on a contract in Malta that summer, but there was insufficient time to make all the necessary arrangements and the deployment to Malta was postponed to the following year. Early in 2007 procedures were undertaken to increase the aircraft’s gross weight to 9,000 pounds for the Malta contract. Malta is an island in the Mediterranean and for many years there had been a helicopter service connecting Valetta, the capital, with the outlying island of Gozo, a popular tourist destination. The helicopter operation proved very expensive and Harbour Air combined with local interests to provide the Otter as a replacement. By May 2007 the Otter was ready to be ferried to Malta on wheels, the floats and all necessary spares and equipment for the operation being shipped to Malta in a container. Flown by two ferry pilots, C-FHAH departed Vancouver on 14th May 2007, its routing being to Calgary (Springbank)-Flin Flon, Manitoba-Churchill- Iqaluit-Sondre Stromfjord-Reykjavik-Prestwick, where it arrived on 21st May, -Duxford-Marseille- Luqa, Malta where it arrived on 24th May. It was then put on amphibious floats and undertook the necessary local test flying for the operation to achieve Maltese certification. The Canadian registration was cancelled on 18th July 2007 and the Otter registered 9H-AFA to Harbour Air (Malta) Ltd. The scheduled service commenced on 23rd July 2007 and for the summer season involved five daily flights connecting the Valetta Sea Passenger Terminal, Malta with Mgarr Harbour, Gozo, where the Otter arrives at Pontoon F. Flight time is twenty minutes and the new service has proved most popular, being much cheaper than the previous helicopter operation. 9H-AFA http://www.google.com/search?q=9H-AFA+dhc&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuteless 1 #25 February 17, 2011 Back in the early 1970s, I had the advantage of jumping at the Canadian Intnl Air Show at the Watrefront in Toronto. We jumped there till 1978. The CNE organizers told me I could have two single otters if I wanted ....free. I would never dream of saying no. On one occassion, they gave me two single Ottters for some " pratice jumps:", but it was a thinly disguised way of giving the pilots some air time. They were Air Force reserves. We gathered all the jumpers we could find and after a quick look around we had enough to fill the two otters. We flew to Baldwin Airport, about 40 miles north of Toronto, and no streamer drops....just barrel through and leave the aircraft at 7500 feet. I spotted, and waved the other plane 's jumpers to go. I was the last one out of the second plane, and I passed every jumper like they were going backwards. I was first in to the base jumper from Plane #1, and it was time to break. I dont recall if we managed a second jump that evening before the 1st day of a 4 day airshow, but I sure remember passing all those bodies in freefall, arms tight to my sides, head down, and really a fast fall. How nice that was....the kind of jump that likely only meant something special,to me.....and to the others...just a log book entry...nothing particular. An excellent jump platform. Oh those good old days. Bill Cole D-41 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites