PhreeZone 20 #26 February 25, 2002 Richard... I've passed an RW group at 7k before and on both my video and the other guys we gave them 7 seconds in the door. Its kinda cool looking out and seeing a group below you then it gets on your level then you are looking up at it.Cause I don't wanna come back down from this cloud... ~ Bush Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #27 February 25, 2002 Richard, well, since you're not supposed to track up or down the flight line, then IF everyone is doing their job, everything will work. Personally, I've been opening when the RW crowd has been opening, although they were way away from me, up the fightline.If the RW guys go out after the FF guys, then the RW guys would be opening directly above the FF guys come pull time. Scary."And who are you?""I'm...Batman..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spy38W 0 #28 February 25, 2002 New DZ Checklist for me...Watch a couple of people go through manifest so you don't look like too much a dumbass. Look at, and study the map... alright, looks good, have landing patterns/areas, outs, where are the windsocks? etc.Talk to other jumpers to sort out jump plans... Bigger RW team ahead of us said wait 10 seconds to jump, we waited 10 seconds after they launched + time it took my low-jump buttocks to get out on the step and still got screamed at after we landed I'm a Newbie, so I might be over/under-doing it. This works for me, but may not for anybody else.But at any rate, see a qualified instructor to confirm/deny anything I typed, after all, I'm a newbie too, and what do I know? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rgoper 0 #29 February 25, 2002 not if they drift, right? i've pulled early on more than on occasion because of this very thing. if your freeflying, you falling at a faster rate, right? so theoterically your at pull time before the rw divers, and they've been sliding all over the sky, so they shouldn't be on top of you when they pull. i do understand your thoughts though.r.g.hell, lets do it in drag, and be "uggins" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weid14 0 #30 February 25, 2002 The safest, most cost effective option given a jump run into the wind is belly out first, if you don't believe it go to Omniskore.com and run the simulation. I dont' know of any skydiver who wants someone in freefall directly over them.This of course has been debated many times, but run it yourself. OH - and it depends on what type of crew, 8 way speed gets out low, so they get out first naturally. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #31 February 25, 2002 Quotethe one thing that is a given is CRw out last.That's NOT a given at all!At Perris, Crew is given their own pass at 11.5 at least 1 mile west and they definately get out FIRST!There are almost NO hard standards from DZ to DZ. Check EVERYTHING.quadehttp://futurecam.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymedic 0 #32 February 25, 2002 Good luck getting any info from DeLand...they just took my money and told me when I was up on the plane....so I just started asking ?'s to the yocals.....marcAOL-skymedic5Yahoo-skymedic5msn-skymedic5@hotmail.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fred 0 #33 February 26, 2002 QuoteAt Perris, Crew is given their own pass at 11.5 at least 1 mile west and they definately get out FIRST!This was true in Eloy, as well (at least, the one flight where I saw CReW get out). The plane made a pass at just under 10k for the dogs to leave, way outside the jump run. They were definately out first. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #34 February 26, 2002 I've been to DZs that do it both ways, I've had it explained to me before the pros of both sides. What would be some Cons to letting CReW go first or last?"And who are you?""I'm...Batman..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #35 February 26, 2002 I can agree with giving the CReW dogs their own pass away from the freefall zone.If you put CReW out first on the same pass, and the upper winds are strong, they will have a long walk back to the DZ. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skreamer 1 #36 February 26, 2002 Yep, and nobody's even mentioned wing-suits - somehow I suspect they'll always be the last ones out... "Don't die until you're dead" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildblue 7 #37 February 27, 2002 in no wind, I can see putting ff out first. Or if for some reason you're doing a crosswind or downwind jumprun.Last time I was at Z-Hills, they were putting FF out first.Never argue with stupid people.They just drag you down 2 their level & beat you with experience Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weid14 0 #38 February 27, 2002 and how often is there no wind at jump altitude? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #39 February 27, 2002 In the Midwest, middle of summer.... about the equivelent of 1 weekend a month. We went like 3 straight weekends of uppers less then 15 knots this summer. Thats like no wind for us.Cause I don't wanna come back down from this cloud... ~ Bush Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
