frawley308 0 #1 May 3, 2012 Does anyone know where I might find an old Pop Top belly reserve to use as a template to build a replica? Thanks Frank Rawley D-9589 Pensacola FL 850 292-1118 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,363 #2 May 3, 2012 Hi Frank, 1. Terry Urban has one but I cannot speak for him. 2. Find a really old SST/Racer & strip the container. What you build will not be a TSO'd item. There are ways to get a one-time container approved but it is time-consuming. JerryBaumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beatnik 2 #3 May 4, 2012 I have both a Strong Pop-Top reserve and an SST Racer. How long would you need it for? I still actively use both of them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PeteS 0 #4 May 4, 2012 You can borrow mine, like we talked about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #5 May 6, 2012 Borrow a Strong Para-Cushion Seat-type pilot emergency parachute. 80 percent of the parts are the same. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #6 May 9, 2012 QuoteI have both a Strong Pop-Top reserve and an SST Racer. How long would you need it for? I still actively use both of them. Who invented the Pop-top, Ted or John? SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3331 137 #7 May 9, 2012 The Pop Top was invented by Dan Poynter (while working for Ted Strong) based on an Air Force back pack. John Sherman bought the rights and adapted it to the SST/Racer.I Jumped with the guys who invented Skydiving. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,363 #8 May 9, 2012 Hi Steve, Quotebased on an Air Force back pack. If one ever sees and old Air Force B-5 rig you will see what Poynter developed into the PopTop. Two local guys back in the 60's made their own piggyback rigs with the reserve container based upon a B-5; they just canted the ripcord pins across the container diagonally. QuoteJohn Sherman bought the rights and adapted it to the SST/Racer. I won't speak for John but the story 'back in the day' was that John only bought the rights for use as a piggyback rig; Ted would not sell the rights for the chest pack version. Or so the rumor mill had it. JerryBaumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #9 May 9, 2012 QuoteThe Pop Top was invented by Dan Poynter (while working for Ted Strong) based on an Air Force back pack. John Sherman bought the rights and adapted it to the SST/Racer. No more calls, we have a winner. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pchapman 279 #10 May 10, 2012 Quote If one ever sees and old Air Force B-5 rig you will see what Poynter developed into the PopTop. You mean like this dude? No idea who he is , but someone should get the FAA on him for jumping over cloud. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #11 May 16, 2012 Quote No idea who he is , but someone should get the FAA on him for jumping over cloud. Pretty sure there was an exclusion for military training exercises."I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybill 22 #12 May 16, 2012 Quote Quote If one ever sees and old Air Force B-5 rig you will see what Poynter developed into the PopTop. You mean like this dude? No idea who he is , but someone should get the FAA on him for jumping over cloud. " Hey Chappy!! The photo......Joe Kittinger!!SCR-2034, SCS-680 III%, Deli-out Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,363 #13 May 16, 2012 Hi Peter, Yup, that is a B-5. Quiz on Friday. JerryBaumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beatnik 2 #14 May 16, 2012 Quote Pretty sure there was an exclusion for military training exercises. Not trying to harp on your comment. But military training rarely get exclusions for most things. The value of training doesn't supersede rules or safety. Operational requirements and missions can be sometimes left up to certain people's discretion. These operational do still have limits but for mission success can have a little more flexibility. Plus I think you missed joke. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pchapman 279 #15 May 16, 2012 I should have put more smileys on my post! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #16 May 16, 2012 Quote Quote Pretty sure there was an exclusion for military training exercises. Not trying to harp on your comment. But military training rarely get exclusions for most things. The value of training doesn't supersede rules or safety. Operational requirements and missions can be sometimes left up to certain people's discretion. These operational do still have limits but for mission success can have a little more flexibility. Plus I think you missed joke. I think you missed my joke. Perhaps I should include the "I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beatnik 2 #17 May 16, 2012 QuoteI think you missed my joke. Perhaps I should include the There really wasn't a joke because it wasn't a training exercise and because of what I stated previously. It really didn't make any sense for those people that deal with stuff like this regularly. Which is what I was getting at. No matter how many or what emoticons you could have used, it still didn't make sense. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #18 May 23, 2012 QuoteQuote Pretty sure there was an exclusion for military training exercises. Not trying to harp on your comment. But military training rarely get exclusions for most things. The value of training doesn't supersede rules or safety. Operational requirements and missions can be sometimes left up to certain people's discretion. These operational do still have limits but for mission success can have a little more flexibility. Plus I think you missed joke. In the US military operations of any type are exempt from FAR's. Sparky Sections 105.5, 105.9, 105.13, 105.15, 105.17, 105.19 through 105.23, 105.25(a)(1) and 105.27 of this part do not apply to a parachute operation conducted by a member of an Armed Force—My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beatnik 2 #19 May 24, 2012 QuoteIn the US military operations of any type are exempt from FAR's. The same goes in Canada for operational requirements. Training has its own set of regulations that aren't regulated by the Transport Canada (Canada's FAA) but by the military itself. Which is what I was leading to and the limits I was talking about. I believe this is the same in the US military at least the people I have worked with from the US have said it is the same. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites