SCS292 1 #1 June 20, 2012 I spent quite a few hours standing up with my torso out the top of my friend's VW squareback sun roof in a big arch on the frequent trips between Houston and Valley Mills in '71 and '72. I give this low speed (65 mph top end in the VW) wind tunnel training partial credit for advancing my RW skills. I'm sure it was hard on the gas mileage but at 30 cents a gallon it wasn't that big a deal. Did anybody else use this technique before the vertical wind tunnel came along? Thank goodness it was pre cell phone days so we didn't get reported as crazies by the other motorists. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #2 June 20, 2012 A similar technique can be done while sitting by an open aircraft door while the plane climbs to altitude. You can stick your hand out the door into the wind blast, and by changing the shape of your palm and fingers you can feel which shape creates the most drag. And that's the most effective hand position to maximize the leverage you need from the wind on your hands to make yourself turn quicker. It's important info for old-fashioned style. It's interesting that you get more drag from spreading your fingers slightly apart, then by cupping them together. Yeah, you can do the same experiment out of a car window, but the speeds are slower. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drjump 0 #3 June 22, 2012 John--car speeds depend upon which freeway you are driving on! LOL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #4 June 22, 2012 Quote John--car speeds depend upon which freeway you are driving on! LOL Yes, but if you're doing 100 mph on the freeway you risk a hefty traffic ticket. Whereas sticking your hand out the window is free. That new 85-mph speed limit freeway by San Antonio has some possibilities! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,307 #5 July 2, 2012 QuoteThat new 85-mph speed limit freeway by San Antonio has some possibilities! Technique is Everything Tribute to Jimi - AIRBORNE! Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCS292 1 #6 July 2, 2012 I was only out from the hips up. You know a skydiver would never do anything as dangerous as that guy is doing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,307 #7 July 2, 2012 PussyNobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,307 #9 July 2, 2012 Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Niki1 1 #10 July 8, 2012 QuoteI was only out from the hips up. You know a skydiver would never do anything as dangerous as that guy is doing. You don't think anything is dangerous until some thing happens. I got out of the sun roof of a Square Back so that my heels were inside under the back of the "hole" and my knees were on the front of the "hole". I was sort of "cantilevered" out over the hood in a tracking postions. Not much angle of attack so not much lift. Until I flexed my knees to lift my angle. I did this at the same time that we were going over an over-pass. That slight arc was just enough pass some critical something and I felt my knees leave the roof. I flared (flailed, actually) and wound up standing in the sun roof. I did NOT hand my beer to some one and say, "Watch this." We were ort of beer and that's where we were going.Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossilbe before they were done. Louis D Brandeis Where are we going and why are we in this basket? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkeenan 14 #11 July 11, 2012 I used to do a bit of that on my motorcycle, back then. It's good to have something behind you if you flare too much. Kevin K._____________________________________ Dude, you are so awesome... Can I be on your ash jump ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
