Fearjoburg 0 #1 February 24, 2013 Hi there. I thoroughly enjoy reading the history thread as a newby in the sport. Please feel free to post videos of your jumps with rounds in this thread. This video is my instructor who put me through harness training and a special friend to me. Although not a historic jump in the true sense of the word I hope it brings back good memories for some of you. The jump took place in Bloemfontein South Africa as part of the annual 44 parachute battalion water jumps. Jump is from 1000 ft and got some line twists as well as reminder to release the capewell (I think) before hitting the water. clicky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,447 #2 February 24, 2013 Most of the people posting here with round jumps made them before video was likely. I have a couple of stills of round landings Wendy P. There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
propblast 0 #3 February 24, 2013 QuoteHi there. I thoroughly enjoy reading the history thread as a newby in the sport. Please feel free to post videos of your jumps with rounds in this thread. This video is my instructor who put me through harness training and a special friend to me. Although not a historic jump in the true sense of the word I hope it brings back good memories for some of you. The jump took place in Bloemfontein South Africa as part of the annual 44 parachute battalion water jumps. Jump is from 1000 ft and got some line twists as well as reminder to release the capewell (I think) before hitting the water. clicky You do not want to release a capwell before hitting the water. That's bad stuff. Loosen reserve and rotate. Seat well in the saddle but, don't release a capwell prior to hitting the water. It's very hard to judge distances above the water and people get hurt trying this. Off my soapbox.Propblast Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #4 February 24, 2013 Please feel free to post videos of your jumps with rounds in this thread. Quote VIDEOS? How about stone carvings? ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #5 February 24, 2013 Quote Please feel free to post videos of your jumps with rounds in this thread. Quote VIDEOS? How about stone carvings? Oh so that IS an your ass print in that mud next to those velociraptor tracks in Texas. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #6 February 24, 2013 Quote Quote Please feel free to post videos of your jumps with rounds in this thread. Quote VIDEOS? How about stone carvings? Oh so that IS an your ass print in that mud next to those velociraptor tracks in Texas. Yeah that's me...PLF's weren't invented until MUCH later! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spooky52 0 #7 February 24, 2013 Looks like a lot more than 1000 feet to me. Canopy ride was way longer than a T-10 at 1K. Still interesting though. When I was jumping rounds, nobody was even carrying movie cameras.If you know how many guns you have - you don't have enough! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #8 February 24, 2013 It's very hard to judge distances above the water and people get hurt dead trying this. There fixed that for you.you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckakers 425 #9 February 24, 2013 QuoteQuoteclicky The last half second.Chuck Akers D-10855 Houston, TX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites oldwomanc6 52 #10 February 25, 2013 Videos/film are not very likely for the majority of round jumps performed, and still photos are few and far between. It's not like nowadays, where every jump is documented. Wait, that's not true, we logged MOST of our jumps! lisa WSCR 594 FB 1023 CBDB 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wmw999 2,447 #11 February 25, 2013 Landing my Starlite Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites efs4ever 3 #12 February 25, 2013 Trust me. There's a ROUND in there. Moss Point Mississippi on August 30th 2002.Russell M. Webb D 7014 Attorney at Law 713 385 5676 https://www.tdcparole.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites efs4ever 3 #13 February 25, 2013 AND I busted my ASS!!!Russell M. Webb D 7014 Attorney at Law 713 385 5676 https://www.tdcparole.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skypuppy 1 #14 February 25, 2013 one of my buddies in the mid '80's. He was 14 at the time...If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SStewart 13 #15 February 25, 2013 I have a picture, not bad since I think it was taken with a disposable camera. It's kinda funny, we used to make rookies jump these things but all the instructors jumped squares....hmmmm?Onward and Upward! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 7 #16 February 25, 2013 ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 7 #17 February 25, 2013 Videos! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqWTXeNKiyw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h63RL7G7oQ0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tglgGAngsmI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1lQGXI_SN0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8wET-7GmHc ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lekstrom10k 0 #18 February 25, 2013 I made 120 'Rag jumps . I also made 1500 Para-commander jumps on all 5 sizes plus some pappilions too. Ihave 40= round reserve rides due to ropes and rings squares and Unit jumps. You can be just as accurate with a round. It just wasnt as forgiving. As my best friend Ray would say about down wind accuracy"You had to learn to miss a whole lot closer" By the way no cutaways on any round or my DeltaII Just Squares Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites drjump 0 #19 February 25, 2013 @ Wendy--Spaceland, I'd recognize those power lines anyplace. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wmw999 2,447 #20 February 25, 2013 Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pchapman 279 #21 February 25, 2013 Ok, your post is the perfect excuse for me to compile the links to a bunch of round canopy pics & video of mine, which are scattered across the web. (For some of the more unusual gear & jumps there are dz.com threads. I have excluded links to some Rogallo canopy jumps.) I started jumping after rounds were gone except as reserves in older gear. I acquired my first vintage canopy in 2006, although I had gone to an old school DZ in the 1990s to jump their ParaCommander school gear one time, and had a Phantom 24 landing after a CRW wrap with a buddy in 2000 (going backwards towards the gravel road beside the DZ, when the surface winds picked up to 15-18 mph). Here's some of the fun I've had since getting into vintage gear: 2012: -- "Jumping a 55 year old parachute 2012 Nov 17" This was a 1957 26' Navy Conical reserve I jumped as a main, one that Bill Cole had owned and dyed yellow. The theory at the time was that dying your reserve at home might reduce its porosity. Try to get a rigger to pack your reserve today if you do that. Descent rate was 20-21 fps on average. (I'm 155 lbs although in this case the canopy was a 3rd canopy so I had a little extra weight on my back.) The canopy has now been retired & lines cut! Stills from my video show (a) how poorly an MA-1 pilot chute can perform in the burble on one's belly, (b) how messy undiapered deployments can be, and (c) a very brief rebound/wake recontact when part of the canopy deflates after opening. In real time it all happened very fast, but taking stills one sees all the messiness. An outside still shows the canopy in an unstable oscillation just before landing. Stills from my video: (Facebook links are naturally viewable only to those logged into a facebook account.) http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10152323186345657.941373.855495656&type=3 2011: -- Video of me using a 34 year old belly mount reserve, a 26' Strong LoPo, after I accidentally detached an R-3 release while opening the ParaCommander. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpxZ_0js8eM A still photo sequence from the above jump, using stills from the ground with a 400 mm lens. It captures the back to earth deployment nicely, something there aren't a lot of photos of. The best pics are at: http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150856282580657.744997.855495656&type=3 Or for convenience some are in a slide show on youtube in lower quality: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqEdXPddj60 Tried to save my main ripcord by sticking it between my knees but still lost it on reserve opening. There's a kicker plate out in the farm field too. That jump might have been be my favorite jump ever. An honest-to-god old school emergency, with a shoulder mounted cutaway system, manual reserve procedures, and dearching for the cutaway! Plus it is on video including my excited commentary as it happens. I showed off and stood the reserve up -- was a bit sore from that -- on the dz. I think Ted Strong had a chuckle at the pics when I sent them his way, not long before he died. 2010: -- "Russian paratroop canopy D-6" A few photos of my Russian paratroop parachute, D-6. One static lines a freefall drogue, and descends under that at 80 mph until deploying the large 'square cut' round main. The drogue allows paratroopers to exit at high speeds from jets and still use a lightweight main canopy. No TSO on that gear but it was widely used in the Eastern Bloc. It is an unvented canopy but can be turned & slipped. It still flies stable due to long lines and high porosity cloth. http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150206208735657.438690.855495656&type=3 --"Russian UT-15 rig & canopy" A few photos of my UT-15 rig. The UT-15 is like a ParaCommander but those in the East think it is even better for accuracy. This version of the rig has OSK squeeze & pull cutaway mechanisms at the shoulders, and uses dual pilot chutes. http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150287946545657.550965.855495656&type=3 2009: -- A 5 minute video of some round & triangular canopy jumps with a buddy, Beatnik on dz.com. (ParaCommander, Paradactyl, Double Keel Paradactyl, Thunderbow, Russian UT-15) Includes me flying a 'dactyl accidentally hooked up backwards. There were some winds so I landed it, rolling backwards. "OLD SCHOOL 2009 -- Jumping Para-Commanders etc" http://blip.tv/pcxstuff/old-school-2009-jumping-para-commanders-etc-2459016 -- "Rounds at PST: A UT-15 and Para-Commander opening" A little video where I and Beatnik exit, I film him opening his Russian UT-15 canopy on a UT-15 rig, and then I deploy my ParaCommander, having a bit of a hard opening having let myself go a little head down during a pilot chute hesistation. Riser slap knocked away my ProTrack, damn. http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=245895635656&set=vb.855495656&type=3 2008: -- "Baton passes with belly mounts and balloon suits" Video of three of us (Beatnik, Jerod Cole, and I) all jumping rounds and a couple of us in balloon suits, doing a traditional baton pass. At the time it was 50 years since the first North American baton pass! I stole the music from the old Gypsy Moths movie as a sound track. http://blip.tv/pcxstuff/baton-passes-with-belly-mounts-and-balloon-suits-1188643 Some photos of our gear and landings etc: http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.82359410656.149763.855495656&type=3 Paracommanders include two of mine -- a pizza puke colour scheme & an ex-Golden Knights canopy -- plus a former Canadian team canopy. 2006: -- Video of a CRW dock of a square canopy (Cruislite) with a round (ParaCommander). I'm under the round and rely on Brian diCenzo's expertise for an accurate, high speed dock, as he flies his canopy into me. With the closing speed it nearly wraps me. We landed individually, and the last scene is a standup landing with the ParaCommander. http://blip.tv/pcxstuff/round-square-crw-88627 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 7 #22 February 25, 2013 THAT is cool! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wmw999 2,447 #23 February 25, 2013 I believe this array counts as being a camera whore Wendy P. There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Fearjoburg 0 #24 February 26, 2013 Quote THAT is cool! Agree really cool! Thanks everybody for all your submissions, keep it coming in! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites INSANEDADDY 0 #25 February 26, 2013 26' Round at the Perrine Bridge. You dont't get to choose how you're going to die. 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oldwomanc6 52 #10 February 25, 2013 Videos/film are not very likely for the majority of round jumps performed, and still photos are few and far between. It's not like nowadays, where every jump is documented. Wait, that's not true, we logged MOST of our jumps! lisa WSCR 594 FB 1023 CBDB 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,447 #11 February 25, 2013 Landing my Starlite Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
efs4ever 3 #12 February 25, 2013 Trust me. There's a ROUND in there. Moss Point Mississippi on August 30th 2002.Russell M. Webb D 7014 Attorney at Law 713 385 5676 https://www.tdcparole.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
efs4ever 3 #13 February 25, 2013 AND I busted my ASS!!!Russell M. Webb D 7014 Attorney at Law 713 385 5676 https://www.tdcparole.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skypuppy 1 #14 February 25, 2013 one of my buddies in the mid '80's. He was 14 at the time...If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SStewart 13 #15 February 25, 2013 I have a picture, not bad since I think it was taken with a disposable camera. It's kinda funny, we used to make rookies jump these things but all the instructors jumped squares....hmmmm?Onward and Upward! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #16 February 25, 2013 ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #17 February 25, 2013 Videos! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqWTXeNKiyw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h63RL7G7oQ0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tglgGAngsmI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1lQGXI_SN0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8wET-7GmHc ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lekstrom10k 0 #18 February 25, 2013 I made 120 'Rag jumps . I also made 1500 Para-commander jumps on all 5 sizes plus some pappilions too. Ihave 40= round reserve rides due to ropes and rings squares and Unit jumps. You can be just as accurate with a round. It just wasnt as forgiving. As my best friend Ray would say about down wind accuracy"You had to learn to miss a whole lot closer" By the way no cutaways on any round or my DeltaII Just Squares Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drjump 0 #19 February 25, 2013 @ Wendy--Spaceland, I'd recognize those power lines anyplace. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,447 #20 February 25, 2013 Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pchapman 279 #21 February 25, 2013 Ok, your post is the perfect excuse for me to compile the links to a bunch of round canopy pics & video of mine, which are scattered across the web. (For some of the more unusual gear & jumps there are dz.com threads. I have excluded links to some Rogallo canopy jumps.) I started jumping after rounds were gone except as reserves in older gear. I acquired my first vintage canopy in 2006, although I had gone to an old school DZ in the 1990s to jump their ParaCommander school gear one time, and had a Phantom 24 landing after a CRW wrap with a buddy in 2000 (going backwards towards the gravel road beside the DZ, when the surface winds picked up to 15-18 mph). Here's some of the fun I've had since getting into vintage gear: 2012: -- "Jumping a 55 year old parachute 2012 Nov 17" This was a 1957 26' Navy Conical reserve I jumped as a main, one that Bill Cole had owned and dyed yellow. The theory at the time was that dying your reserve at home might reduce its porosity. Try to get a rigger to pack your reserve today if you do that. Descent rate was 20-21 fps on average. (I'm 155 lbs although in this case the canopy was a 3rd canopy so I had a little extra weight on my back.) The canopy has now been retired & lines cut! Stills from my video show (a) how poorly an MA-1 pilot chute can perform in the burble on one's belly, (b) how messy undiapered deployments can be, and (c) a very brief rebound/wake recontact when part of the canopy deflates after opening. In real time it all happened very fast, but taking stills one sees all the messiness. An outside still shows the canopy in an unstable oscillation just before landing. Stills from my video: (Facebook links are naturally viewable only to those logged into a facebook account.) http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10152323186345657.941373.855495656&type=3 2011: -- Video of me using a 34 year old belly mount reserve, a 26' Strong LoPo, after I accidentally detached an R-3 release while opening the ParaCommander. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpxZ_0js8eM A still photo sequence from the above jump, using stills from the ground with a 400 mm lens. It captures the back to earth deployment nicely, something there aren't a lot of photos of. The best pics are at: http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150856282580657.744997.855495656&type=3 Or for convenience some are in a slide show on youtube in lower quality: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqEdXPddj60 Tried to save my main ripcord by sticking it between my knees but still lost it on reserve opening. There's a kicker plate out in the farm field too. That jump might have been be my favorite jump ever. An honest-to-god old school emergency, with a shoulder mounted cutaway system, manual reserve procedures, and dearching for the cutaway! Plus it is on video including my excited commentary as it happens. I showed off and stood the reserve up -- was a bit sore from that -- on the dz. I think Ted Strong had a chuckle at the pics when I sent them his way, not long before he died. 2010: -- "Russian paratroop canopy D-6" A few photos of my Russian paratroop parachute, D-6. One static lines a freefall drogue, and descends under that at 80 mph until deploying the large 'square cut' round main. The drogue allows paratroopers to exit at high speeds from jets and still use a lightweight main canopy. No TSO on that gear but it was widely used in the Eastern Bloc. It is an unvented canopy but can be turned & slipped. It still flies stable due to long lines and high porosity cloth. http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150206208735657.438690.855495656&type=3 --"Russian UT-15 rig & canopy" A few photos of my UT-15 rig. The UT-15 is like a ParaCommander but those in the East think it is even better for accuracy. This version of the rig has OSK squeeze & pull cutaway mechanisms at the shoulders, and uses dual pilot chutes. http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150287946545657.550965.855495656&type=3 2009: -- A 5 minute video of some round & triangular canopy jumps with a buddy, Beatnik on dz.com. (ParaCommander, Paradactyl, Double Keel Paradactyl, Thunderbow, Russian UT-15) Includes me flying a 'dactyl accidentally hooked up backwards. There were some winds so I landed it, rolling backwards. "OLD SCHOOL 2009 -- Jumping Para-Commanders etc" http://blip.tv/pcxstuff/old-school-2009-jumping-para-commanders-etc-2459016 -- "Rounds at PST: A UT-15 and Para-Commander opening" A little video where I and Beatnik exit, I film him opening his Russian UT-15 canopy on a UT-15 rig, and then I deploy my ParaCommander, having a bit of a hard opening having let myself go a little head down during a pilot chute hesistation. Riser slap knocked away my ProTrack, damn. http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=245895635656&set=vb.855495656&type=3 2008: -- "Baton passes with belly mounts and balloon suits" Video of three of us (Beatnik, Jerod Cole, and I) all jumping rounds and a couple of us in balloon suits, doing a traditional baton pass. At the time it was 50 years since the first North American baton pass! I stole the music from the old Gypsy Moths movie as a sound track. http://blip.tv/pcxstuff/baton-passes-with-belly-mounts-and-balloon-suits-1188643 Some photos of our gear and landings etc: http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.82359410656.149763.855495656&type=3 Paracommanders include two of mine -- a pizza puke colour scheme & an ex-Golden Knights canopy -- plus a former Canadian team canopy. 2006: -- Video of a CRW dock of a square canopy (Cruislite) with a round (ParaCommander). I'm under the round and rely on Brian diCenzo's expertise for an accurate, high speed dock, as he flies his canopy into me. With the closing speed it nearly wraps me. We landed individually, and the last scene is a standup landing with the ParaCommander. http://blip.tv/pcxstuff/round-square-crw-88627 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #22 February 25, 2013 THAT is cool! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,447 #23 February 25, 2013 I believe this array counts as being a camera whore Wendy P. There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fearjoburg 0 #24 February 26, 2013 Quote THAT is cool! Agree really cool! Thanks everybody for all your submissions, keep it coming in! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
INSANEDADDY 0 #25 February 26, 2013 26' Round at the Perrine Bridge. You dont't get to choose how you're going to die. Or when.......You can only decide how you're going to live........NOW. -BASE 1605 Night BASE 227 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
