birddog 0 #76 September 27, 2004 ok make that 4 reserve rides and one!!! packed by myself!!!Deal with it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peterpan 0 #77 September 27, 2004 (3) one tension knots, one drogue would not release . And the one that briddog pack me that split the main in two down the middle. (thanks)Regrets are just unfulfilled dreams Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
birddog 0 #78 September 30, 2004 dude must have been your body position!! i dont pack mals!!!!!!!!!!!!Deal with it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
birddog 0 #79 September 30, 2004 get over it. shit happens no matter how anyone packs. just deal with the situation and enjoy what you are lucky enough to do for a living.Deal with it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
birddog 0 #80 September 30, 2004 i dont and do not have aproblemDeal with it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #81 September 30, 2004 What exactly are you responding to in these three posts? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neandertal 0 #82 September 30, 2004 Man, as a packer YOU'RE FIRED!!! Don't cry. As a packer I shoud be fired too... Even when it wasn't my fault. 16 mal: 9 sport rig mal. - including 1 Astra fired at 3.000 at the same time my main canopy went out. 7 Tandens mal. (almost 3000 tandens jumps) - 5 on vector II, 1 Sigma, 1 Racer. Jimmy. No Drogue, no JUMP!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wsinsel 0 #83 September 30, 2004 I seem to make around 1 reserve ride every 300 jumps or so. I'm not upset about it. I tell students, the first one is scary. After that you begin to think, " Oh no, not this shit again" I did pack every mal myself, mostly line twists, but I also packed one of the other tandem guys a step through. "It's very important at this point that you don't simply become a passenger." Flight instructor Dennis Anderson speaking about life and crosswind landings. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
birddog 0 #84 October 3, 2004 i have had to 2 tandem mals in the last 6 days now both packed by myself. shit happens....Deal with it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peterpan 0 #85 October 9, 2004 Hey man take a week off and when you come back I will give you some pack lessons any timeRegrets are just unfulfilled dreams Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blueskiesguy 0 #86 October 17, 2004 One reserve ride a few years ago at Cedar Valley, UT. I now have 1243 tandems. It was a slider up on an older SET, which I could not bring down, a tension knot up there? I worked at it for at least a thousand feet, then went for the red and silver. I weigh about 150 and my passenger was about 90 lbs! Of course, she had no idea, and the landing was on tiptoes. Suffice to say that I should have steered away from the DZ's notoriously slow opening rig on that jump. The parachute was relined shortly after, and the slider modified too. Today I don't feel so bad when I get those 250 pound tandem students. I've even been known to swap a 115 pounder with a less adventurous TI. At least the ballast helps get the slider down! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raff 4 #87 October 20, 2004 7000 Tandems, 18 reserve rides. Most of these have been due to poor gear maintenance, I am sorry to admit. While the actual mals may be describes as otherwise, beneath it all there have been frequent gear-related issues i.e. attachments points, worn bridles, worn drogues, etc. A gear check will only catch those things you are able to see at that point. Talk to the packers. they are frequently the first line of defense.If you leave the plane without a parachute, you will be fine for the rest of your life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DZJ 0 #88 October 22, 2004 I'm not a tandem instructor (only ever once been a tandem passenger, come to that), but was wondering what TI's tend to say (if anything) to their students after a cutaway and reserve ride. Some have posted (here and elsewhere) to say that students often simply don't realise that anything had gone wrong. Do TI's prefer to tell them or simply not mention it to avoid possibly freaking them out? Apologies if anyone feels this is an off-topic digression. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skypuppy 1 #89 October 23, 2004 After my first, I was a bit too busy getting things sorted out to volunteer information, but when the student asked I answered his questions... He wasn't real sure what had happened but I still wanted to continue with explaining how to steer the parachute (even tho' the reserve doesn't have student loops on the toggles) , practice getting his feet up for landing and talk about the area and the winds.... After my second (about 4hours later the same day) the student was a bit more aware, we were open higher and I wasn't concerned about landing on target because I realized it was impossible, so I had more time to talk to him about it. Still, it's mostly just answering their questions... Hey, if we didn't expect to have a malfunction sometime, we wouldn't wear reserves....If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kiss_the_sky 0 #90 October 16, 2016 2 reserve ride in 500 tandems, both with the new TNT system. 1 was a knotted up drogue bridle ( so short, it was practically sitting on top of the main tray) Went straight reserve as it looked like the drogue/bridle was somehow wrapped around the main tray and the reserve tray was clear. 2 was a 3 ring flip, locking both instructor and secondary handles in place. Was certainly fun trying to peel out the cutaway cables while the secondary had the cutaway put locked in place, got it out and went to reserve. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #91 October 18, 2016 blueskiesguy One reserve ride a few years ago at Cedar Valley, UT. I now have 1243 tandems. I made most of my first 1000 jumps there back in the 70s and 80s. Who's running a DZ there now? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fall0ut 3 #92 October 18, 2016 1 reserve ride in 240 tandems. Spinning linetwist on a worn out Firebird Tandem canopy. The sucker always likes to twist up and the slider stays up until you pump the toggles. Terrible canopy that will hopefully be dumped in the woods soon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #93 October 18, 2016 There's big money being made with tandem jumping. We shouldn't have to be jumping worn out gear. DZOs should do better than that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justme12001 0 #94 October 19, 2016 3 cutaways in 2400 tandems #1 was a tension knot, #2 was a lineover, and #3 was a stuck toggle I have landed two tandems with blown center cells Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
linebckr83 3 #95 October 20, 2016 1 cutaway in ~700 tandems. Broke both center A lines right below the cascade. Handcam pic attached. Also have landed 3 with a blown out end cell (flew and flared fine minus a built in turn) and 1 with a blown out center cell (got behind on that one, realized it at an altitude I was uncomfortable cutting away at. Hard landing but student was A-ok after landing on me.)"Are you coming to the party? Oh I'm coming, but I won't be there!" Flying Hellfish #828 Dudist #52 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AdD 1 #96 October 24, 2016 5 chops in 2,400 tandems 1. Excessive line twists 2. Lineover 3. Streamer, main packed wet 4. Tension knots 5. More tension knotsLife is ez On the dz Every jumper's dream 3 rigs and an airstream Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firemedic 7 #97 October 25, 2016 Fun Jumps Reserve rides 4 1 Packing Error 3 Due to Broken Steering Lines Tandems Reserve Rides 5 All 5 were Tension knots. Details: All 5 cutaways occurred within 4 months of each other. The DZO and other instructors thought it was due to packing errors because they were having an unusually high number tension knots as well. I watched the packers closely and they were doing acceptable jobs. The packers noticed that rubber bands were breaking on every jump and a videographer showed me one of my deployments. 3 or 4 of the stow bands broke when I deployed, dumping lines in a huge mess over my head. That narrowed the problem down to a possible bad batch of rubber bands. As soon as we got new rubber bands the tension knots ceased occurring. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freefalle 0 #98 December 17, 2016 3 two were line overs and one was a bag lock. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royreader8812 0 #99 December 17, 2016 I have had 1 in about 4500 tandems. My current DZ does well over 30,000 tandems a year and I have only seen a few here in the 3 years I have been here. I think only one in the last year. If people are having more than a few in under 1000 jumps, there must be something wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kiss_the_sky 0 #100 February 20, 2017 3 now....stupid line twists! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
