Unionize?

[Dutton 0]

AFF Instructor's International?
Local No. 1

Meeting next weekend at my house.
BYOB

[AggieDave 6]

There has been talk of creating a similar organization to the one made for the scuba instructors.

All in all I don't think it would be a bad idea, but there's always a catch and there will be a lot of folks that will be happy to work non-union...

--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."

[jlmiracle 7]

I personally wouldn't join, but then again, when I instruct, I am paid well compared to what the rest of you make, but I don't do it for a living and we are only a weekend dz.

Judy

Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

[kelpdiver 2]

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There has been talk of creating a similar organization to the one made for the scuba instructors.

what org is that?

[livendive 8]

International
Brotherhood
for
Skydiving
Instructor
Manifestor
Packer &
Loader
Employment
?

Blues,
Dave

"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!"
(drink Mountain Dew)

[Andrewwhyte 1]

goddamncommies.

[AggieDave 6]

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what org is that?

You would ask, wouldn't you?

I can't remember exactly, but I remember there was a fairly long/informative thread about it a while back. I'm sure a search will find it...since my brain has instantly turned to mush and I can't remember the specific details about it.

--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."

[riggerrob 643]

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what org is that?

You would ask, wouldn't you?

I can't remember exactly, but I remember there was a fairly long/informative thread about it a while back. I'm sure a search will find it...since my brain has instantly turned to mush and I can't remember the specific details about it.

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ISIA
International Skydiving Instructors' Association.
Don Yarling (long time AFF Course Director and past president of USPA) is one of the founding members. He plans to run it similar to PADI (Professional Association of [scuba] Diving Instructors).
One of ISIA's goals is to standardize skydiving instructors ratings.
At the moment, ISIA's plan seems to consist of non-Americans paying Don to do evaluation dives with him. Hopefully, in the long run, ISIA will just recognize ratings issued by national aero clubs (USPA, CSPA, BPA, etc) and rubber-stamp their new ratings.
ISIA is a good idea, because in the long run we will end up with one global standard for skydiving instructors, similar to the FAI's efforts to standardize sport parachuting licenses.

[kelpdiver 2]

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what org is that?

You would ask, wouldn't you?

of course!

There are no scuba unions. The various orgs more closely ressemble the role of the USPA, though it would be truthful to say that some of them have their own interests. SDI represents the dive shops best, for example. PADI seems to represent itself above all else, and then there are more legacy outfits like NAUI.

All set standards and certify instructors, but none take a role in guaranteeing wages or working relationships with the shops. It's very much like the skydiving world - a few work full time, but no one makes much more than a subsistence living. Most do it part time in addition to their "real job."

[RedassSkychic 0]

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You would ask, wouldn't you?

I can't remember exactly, but I remember there was a fairly long/informative thread about it a while back. I'm sure a search will find it...since my brain has instantly turned to mush and I can't remember the specific details about it.

Whoa!! Dave can't remember a piece of useless trivia?! I think i'm gonna print this out and hang it on my wall for future reference

[Liemberg 0]

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goddamncommies.

Visions of a picket line in front of the recently aquired DZ?

"Whoever in discussion adduces authority uses not intellect but memory." - Leonardo da Vinci
A thousand words...

[Andrewwhyte 1]

notachance. The new DZ's in Alberta (Canada's Texas); no commies allowed.

[Canuck 0]

Yeah - just what we need. A union telling us that we can do no more than 5 instructor jumps per day, otherwise our dropzone is exploiting and overworking us...

I'm not totally anti-union - I belonged to a teachers union while in that career, and while I sometimes wondered where my $90 went every month, I never resented it.

But in skydiving - uh uh.

Canuck

[airtwardo 7]

He plans to run it similar to PADI (Professional Association of [scuba] Diving Instructors).

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Or as it's known to members...

P~ut
A~nother
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~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~

[kelpdiver 2]

an old classic (many variations exist):

A charter boat was 12 miles offshore with three instructors aboard and their respective students. Suddenly the boat developed a leak, and the bilge pump was out of order. The boat was sinking with no hope of salvage.

The YMCA instructor faced his students and said "OK, abandon ship. We're only 12 miles out, it's an easy swim."

The NAUI instructor told his students "OK, ditch-and-don drill, let's hit the water people and practice drown-proofing and open-water survival".

The PADI instructor glanced at his training manual, then turned to his students and said "OK guys, for another $100 you can earn your wreck specialty certification".