Talons

[freebird 0]

I had a problem with a Talon one time. The problem was found on the ground by a packer. there is a protective flap that covers the pilot chute pouch. The bridle must be pushed up in the lower part of the container to avoid exposure(we all know this) My bridle had gotten pushed up and fell over the corner of the protective flap. The packer said I would of had a pilot chute in tow. One of my JMs said it would of opened.

[PhreeZone 20]

This type of situtation can happen with most types of containers. The force needed to extract the bridle from the container is so slight that the chance of a PC in tow is almost zero if there was more then about 4 feet of bridle pulling on it.
Its just one more thing to look out for when you are packing. Its nothing major.
I want to touch the sky, I want to fly so high ~ Sonique

[steve1 5]

I just recently purchased a Talon 2. The first time I packed it up I shoved the bridal way up and around this flap. Fortunately I tested it out before jumping it. I'm sure I would have had a pilot chute in tow. As hard as I yanked on it, the line remained wrapped around this stiff bottom flap. I wonder how many malfunctions are caused by this each year. My other rig has nothing under there that will cause a similiar problem. I wonder if this problem is exclusive to talon containers. Every time I pack I have to use great care to avoid this problem. I don't dare shove the bridal up there too deep. Steve

[scotts 0]

on my talon i always release the tuck tabs on this flap before i put my pc in the pouch. if this is done, i don't see how your bridle could get caught in the flap. just my .02
Damn Power Lines !!!

[steve1 5]

Maybe my container is different than yours. Mine is an older container that has been converted to BOC. At any rate the bottom closing flap has a very rigid squared off corner. If I shove the bridle line too far up under the right closing flap it can slide over this rigid corner. This is kind of hard to explain without drawing a picture or showing you in person. The place I'm talking about is after you shove the pilot chute in the pocket, you then stow the bridle up under. Shove it too far and it can wrap around the rigid corner flap. My Vector is not like this. I know the new Talons are different also. Thanks for your input. Steve

[Aviatrr 0]

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Maybe my container is different than yours. Mine is an older container that has been converted to BOC. At any rate the bottom closing flap has a very rigid squared off corner. If I shove the bridle line too far up under the right closing flap it can slide over this rigid corner.

That sounds nothing like my Talon 2, which is a 2000 DOM.. I have over 250 jumps on that rig, and never had a problem.. I have actually tried to cause what you describe on the ground, but have never been able to, regardless of how far I shove the bridle up under the right closing flap.. As long as the bridle is correctly routed, my container will open..
Mike

[riggerrob 643]

This pilotchute-in-tow malfunction can occur on any container if you stuff too much bridle too deep under the side flap. The bridle can wrap around the corner of the stiffener on the bottom flap. Talons and Flexons with covered BOCs just have larger stiffeners that are easier to snag.
I experienced this malfunction on my 1985 vintage Mirage.
The solution was to sew on a bridle-hiding flap similar to recent Javelins. If the bridle hider flap is sewn to the outboard edge of the bottom flap and it follows the edge almost to the grommet, then it is almost idiot-proof.

[steve1 5]

Thanks Rigger-Rob. I'll get a rigger to look at this. Steve

[lazerq3 0]

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That sounds nothing like my Talon 2, which is a 2000 DOM

I agree...I have a Talon 2 DOM 2001 I havnt had any problems with the bridle. As soon as I put the bag in and rotate it forward I then leay the excess bridal to the topp of the bag, insert pin and thats that!!! Theres nothing there I can see it getting caught on . Now if you shove the shit outta the bridal and stuff it so far in you cant see it then ya there could be a problem. But then the problem is the packer not the container!
jason

[steve1 5]

The chute I am using now is almost too large for the container. Maybe this might make a difference. I don't really shove the bridal up too far. Just a few inches so it stays put. A couple more inches and it can wrap around the closing flap. Thanks, Steve