prost 0 #51 January 10, 2002 <." That's like landing downwind saying "Well, that's the direction I landed yesterday." >Hey,,,sounds good to me...lets try it.William Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fred 0 #52 January 10, 2002 Quote I agree, especially since no one has to spot any more. It's the hardest skill to learn in spotting, partly (I think) because it sounds so easy.This definately depends on your dropzone. I'm a student, and spotting is one of the most stressful parts of my skydives. I'd rather be hanging from the strut than leaning out that door. Though I must say that the first (and only) time I had the pilot make a correction was a pretty thrilling experience. My concern, however, is that the spot doesn't seem to matter much in a C-182 and a 3000ft opening, so I don't really have a penalty for being early or late. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #53 January 10, 2002 "the spot doesn't seem to matter much in a C-182 and a 3000ft opening"Yes....but accuracy is the key. The result of being "off a little" isn't that bad from 3,000 but can be huge at 14,000."I got some beers....Let's Drink em!!!"Clay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weid14 0 #54 January 10, 2002 try jumping a round.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #55 January 10, 2002 "try jumping a round.... "That's it!!! I'm going to open a professional spotting school. Make everyone jump T-10's!!! That'll teach em!!!! "I got some beers....Let's Drink em!!!"Clay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iflyme 0 #56 January 15, 2002 Quote Note that most 4-way teams take 6-8 seconds climbing out Maybe out of a big plane like an Otter, but I think it is likely longer (never actually timed it) for a C-182, which you will find at small dropzones everywhere... anyway, we put bellyfliers out before freefliers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weid14 0 #57 January 15, 2002 and you can fit HOW many people in a C-182? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #58 January 15, 2002 Quote and you can fit HOW many people in a C-182?Lots if they're wearing funny makeup and big floppy shoes! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kris 0 #59 January 15, 2002 Quote and you can fit HOW many people in a C-182? In ours we can do 6 including the pilot. It's a wide-body with STOL kit & wing-tip extensions. The thing takes almost no space getting off the runway and I can't remember the last time I heard the stall-buzzer. Hell, I think I've almost even forgotten what the buzzer sounds like.On a JM load I'l usually have one student next to the pilot, one behind the pilot and two in the back along with me in front sitting on my knees.Kris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weid14 0 #60 January 15, 2002 right a wide body c-182 can be rated for 5 jumpers..... my humorous point was with that aircraft you really aren't going to worry much about separation if you're doing a 4way, unless the pilot plans on jumping. in which case he should give 6-8 seconds before bale out... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DBTECH 0 #61 January 15, 2002 Still on server--the article->Relatively Speakingdb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prost 0 #62 January 15, 2002 Good article Dave, but I don't think most people will read all of it. The ones who will most likely already understand it.William Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 6 #63 January 15, 2002 Quote right a wide body c-182 can be rated for 5 jumpers..... my humorous point was with that aircraft you really aren't going to worry much about separation if you're doing a 4way, unless the pilot plans on jumping. in which case he should give 6-8 seconds before bale out...Shit, if I need to get out I'm climbing right over your ass. You can read the "Follow" and "Me" written on the bottom of my shoes. Oh yah, and Bwahahahahahahhahahaha!!!!!!!!!Chris SchindlerD-19012ATP/CFIIwww.DiverDriver.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weid14 0 #64 January 15, 2002 in reply to: "if I need to get out I'm climbing right over your ass" If I see the pilot coming at me, no way is he going to beat me to the door!!!! besides I'm bigger than you Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iflyme 0 #65 January 16, 2002 Quote and you can fit HOW many people in a C-182?Well it still takes more than 6 seconds for 4 people to climb out that little door and get into position! At least it did for us last weekend -- although there's no way you could call us a team! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weid14 0 #66 January 16, 2002 sure it does, but you're pretty much spotting for yourself as more than likely no one is following you out of the plane Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites