C206 Side door exits for AFF's

[flyer299 0]

I am going to be doing AFF's from a 206 with a Rear Side door. Most of my AFF's have been from a 182. Can I get some suggestions on how to teach students to climb into AFF exit position, and what the instructors do?

Thanks

[diablopilot 2]

Having never done an AFF from a 206, but having done video from one I can suggest the full climb out and float. I think I like this sort of exit for almost all A/C actually.

I have heard of a seated exit being done....

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[flyer299 0]

Yeah, I've heard of the seated exit before. Kind of wanted to just forget that I ever heard about that one .

Floating the exit as you described, do both instructors float? Or just rear float the Reserver Instructor and let the main instructor dive out?

[wmw999 2,444]

Back in the dark ages we used to do seated exits in our cargo-door 206. When we couldn't use either the Otter or the 182. It was definitely a last choice, but possible.

No video in those days, so no idea how we would have added that.

Wendy W.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[diablopilot 2]

All three are outside floating.

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[Tonto 1]

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All three are outside floating.

Near impossible with huge variables on early Level students, and usually both instructors will have only one grip in place on exit. I only have about 200 of these, but what I use is

RHS Instructor full float with left grip on students legstrap and right grip on aircraft. I prefer right foot in corner of the door, but have seen some use left.

Student on floor of aircraft on the edge, with left knee down and right knee up, both hands on right knee. Squish the student as far towards the tail as you can.

LHS instructor both grips in place, head and at least left shoulder out the door.

Student does check left, check right, forward, back, arch. (or ready set go if you prefer)

RHS Instructor drops off and collects the students arm on the way. Don't surf in this position. You want to drop off as vertically as possible.

LHS instructor stays crunched up until it starts to settle and the formation is less steep, then unfolds. DON'T use your head. Keep eye contact with the other Inst. This goes for both of you.

If it looks like the LHS is coming over the top, RHS can turn the "tray" to the right and put it down on the other side.

t

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[Andrewwhyte 1]

This seems to have big possibilities for LHS to be door food. Is the student's orientation straight out the door or more foreward?

[flyer299 0]

Would anyone happen to have video of one of these exits? Soon as I get my hands on the plane (they are converting it to a jump plane now), I will start testing it with experinced skydivers first.

[Tonto 1]

Straight out the door - but the RHS tends to take them back a bit which create the gap for the LHS.

I've never had any issues using this, but as I said, only 200 odd of my 1900+ AFF's have been rear door 206.

I'm also not massive, 5'11, 170 lbs. Large people may struggle more out of small doors.

t

It's the year of the Pig.

[voodew1 0]

I have over a hundred of these exits but I need to know if your 206 has a floater bar and step along the door.
if so it is very similar to an otter exit only your on the wrong side of the plane ---reserve side has controlling grips.

If your plane has above mentioned hardware:
on jump run student turns and faces forward(looking at dash of plane.
Main side climbs out one hand on floater bar 1 foot on step.
Student backs up on hands and knees - right foot goes out on step as far forward as possible(knee will be outside also) left foot is on edge of door -- head out -- hands pancaking door.

Reserve side pushes out on "ARCH" from crouched position inside plane

I will see what i can do with some frame grabs to post

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[flyer299 0]

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I have over a hundred of these exits but I need to know if your 206 has a floater bar and step along the door.
if so it is very similar to an otter exit only your on the wrong side of the plane ---reserve side has controlling grips.

If your plane has above mentioned hardware:
on jump run student turns and faces forward(looking at dash of plane.
Main side climbs out one hand on floater bar 1 foot on step.
Student backs up on hands and knees - right foot goes out on step as far forward as possible(knee will be outside also) left foot is on edge of door -- head out -- hands pancaking door.

Reserve side pushes out on "ARCH" from crouched position inside plane

I will see what i can do with some frame grabs to post

Thanks for the advice... This is what I was thinking. They are in the process of converting the plane to a jump plane, so it doesn't have anything right now. But they have told me that they will be doing a bar and a step.

[livendive 8]

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If your plane has above mentioned hardware:
on jump run student turns and faces forward(looking at dash of plane.
Main side climbs out one hand on floater bar 1 foot on step.
Student backs up on hands and knees - right foot goes out on step as far forward as possible(knee will be outside also) left foot is on edge of door -- head out -- hands pancaking door.

Reserve side pushes out on "ARCH" from crouched position inside plane

Our U206 only has a step and bar forward of the door, but the exit is almost as you described. Mainside has right foot on step and right hand on bar, left foot aft of the student, and left hand has the legstrap grip. Student is seated, canted forward, with hands pancaking the front of the door. Reserve side is kneeling behind the pilot with both grips. During launch, main side picks up the arm and plays heavy for the first couple seconds while it rotates 90-180 degrees and flattens out. It's been rock solid every time I've done it so far, including when Jay Stokes was the student and trying to hose the exits.

Blues,
Dave

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[freeflygirlz 0]

We have a C206T as well and I have more than 200 AFFs out of this plane by now.
We are doing pretty much the same as described and they are very nice exits, although the door is preety small. Only difference: main side instructor removes his right leg from the plane as soon as he has his grip on the student.
What does "pancake" mean??
Our students have the left hand at the floor of the plane and the right hand at the rear door. They push with the right and turn over the left hand into the relative wind.

Another question:
level 4+5: do you go Main or Reserve side?? I always go Reserve side, as I feel I can control + secure the student more from inside the plane
Any suggestens welcome!
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