taffclarke 0 #76 November 11, 2006 any body want to comment on the pros and cons for this? exit. safety enjoyment learning, sel the sport. dont kill it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
packerboy 3 #77 November 11, 2006 One con would be the fact that it probably takes away from the experience for the passenger. Not probably... I can guarantee it takes away part of the experience. A good video is nice to have, but the passenger is there entirely for the skydive, not to make a video of themselves and have fun in the process. I'm sure there are other cons too, but I won't speculate since I am neither a TI nor a tandem vidiot. -------------------------------------------------- In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. ~ Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tonyhays 86 #78 November 12, 2006 Pro---definitely get a good close-up shot of the passengers face on exit... Con...if the camera flyer has a premature deployment.“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
packerboy 3 #79 November 12, 2006 As a first time tandem student, I would rather have a wide shot of the entire airplane and me leaving it. But that's just me. I know what my face looks like, and my friends who are watching the video know what my face looks like.. I want to see airplane.. and sky.. and me in it. After all, that's why I am there. As a photographer you would want the closeup, because it's better photography. Who's more important? -------------------------------------------------- In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. ~ Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tonyhays 86 #80 November 12, 2006 What the student wants is more important, obviously. It's not that hard to ask the student what they would prefer.“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
packerboy 3 #81 November 12, 2006 At that point they don't know better, they'll do anything you tell them. What's the point anyway? It dsoesn't take a tandem instructor, video guy, 10,000 jump wonder or rocket scientist to know that the risk is not worth the reward. Ya Ya.. you haven't seen so and so fly, he's got a million jumps and he can do it safely.... whatever.. shit can happen and it's not worth it. I was trying to dispel the original argument that it makes for better video, which renders the debate of whether or not it is safe pretty useless. It's unnecesary.. if you need to hold on to the passenger or harness to get a good closeup exit shot, then you are not a good enough flyer to be holding on to the passenger. -------------------------------------------------- In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. ~ Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RIGGER 0 #82 November 12, 2006 My answer as a T I/E & TCD is NO WAY !!! Safe Tandem Jumps !!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #83 November 13, 2006 i have done this exit once - it was with my daughter but i also had a normal video also - it did take a great shot of her face but the normal video was better in all other areas - i also had a video guy that was very good but would not recommend this on a normal tandem because it did loose some video on the transition after release nor would i want to expose a student to the dangerous posibilities Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BASE1036 0 #84 November 14, 2006 That exit also puts more stress on the tandem rig, and accelerates the tandem pair even more quickly than normal. Finally if the drouge wraps, the camera guy is fucked as well.Daniel Protect Yourself and Your Loved Ones Tasers - Pepper Spray - Stun Guns and more! www.dallassecuritysupply.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites