Ron 10 #326 November 6, 2006 QuoteYet again more speculation! The fact of the matter is he was asked to stop only once by a regional director and he stopped immediately! That was three months ago. Now there is no more need for furthur speculations on this subject! ...and that goes for you too as well Ron I have information from several independent sources that say otherwise. I'm sorry if you don't like what I am saying, but I have a few people I trust telling me the opposite of what you are telling me. Who are you anyway? No profile and no name....And only posting to this thread. So I have people I know and trust telling me one thing, and someone who I don't know and posts anonymously saying another....In my place, who would you trust? Now to complicate matters, I know Jacko a little and like the guy. From my limited experience with him he seems not the type....But I have been wrong before reference my ex-wife."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
outofcontrol 0 #327 November 7, 2006 I understand the lack of trust considering you do not know me. I work at CSC. I have read the most ridiculous "facts" from people posting on this forum. I think there is maybe 10% truth in this entire 14 page thread. The truth of the matter is...Yes Jacko got a phone call from a Regional Director, and yes he stopped that very second...END OF STORY! I am sick of people stating on here how they "know" the facts when in all actuality there are very few people on here posting the real facts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #328 November 7, 2006 QuoteQuotethe petition asks for all his ratings back AFF...Fine, but I am not sure about Tandem. And that would keep me from signing any petition. Me too. I'm cool with the AFF and USPA membership being reinstated, but think the tandem rating should probably be withheld for a year or so. If USPA has failed to act or not punished appropriately in past instances, that doesn't mean they shouldn't in this one. Life isn't fair and the fact that one person or another gets away with something doesn't mean everyone should. If Jacko (versus "concerned friends") is using such an excuse, that speaks to the attitude thing Ron referred to much earlier in the thread, or at least it does in my mind. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
loudtom 5 #329 November 7, 2006 That is why I put an IF in the sentence. And I agree with Ron about posting without telling people who you are. If you work there what do you have to hide for. All most of us want is to know the truth. Or as close as some of us can come... And barring that we might as well make up stuff What is all the secrecy about? lttom #90 #54 #08 and now #5 with a Bronze :-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #330 November 8, 2006 even if there is only 10% truth it still needed to be adressed and i'm glad it was - i've taken the heat from jacko on my opinion are you afraid of taking a little heat ? i do think if you want your opinion to count we should at least know your qualifications for your opinion - do you work behind the window at manifest and just standing up for jacko or do you have qualified experience as an instructor and actually know what can happen on a tandem - yes you are right when you said jacko stopped but this issue goes deeper than jacko - i know there are more ti's doing stuff that may lead to deaths and injuries that needs to be set straight - this thread helps get these things corrected and if it saves one life it was worth it - unfortunatly if it does save a life we will never know all we will know is that there isn't an incedent report Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
packerboy 3 #331 November 9, 2006 Are this guys employers standing behind him at all or just hanging him out to dry? The TI wasn't the only one in the know who made the poor decision to let it happen. Are DZO's at all responsible for knowingly letting people (their employees even) do stupid dangerous things on their dropzone? Or do they reserve the right to take two steps backwards and disappear into the shadows when someone gets themself into shit doing something considered totally acceptable? I think everyone has to take a step back and look at the big picture. Taking the guys TI rating for a year or two is obviously going to have a massive impact on him.. this is his livelihood, much more is cruel and unusual punishment for his misdoings. Who is responsible for a class full of unruly misguided students, the students or the teacher? -------------------------------------------------- In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. ~ Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #332 November 9, 2006 the dzo's lost their s&ta ratings over this - at least one dzo did some of the video - and both of them are ti rated Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
packerboy 3 #333 November 9, 2006 How does that really affect them. Is there a rule that states a DZ HAS to have a S&TA? -------------------------------------------------- In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. ~ Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #334 November 10, 2006 you don't need a s&ta at the dz to operate but you do need one to sign off for ratings and stuff Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
packerboy 3 #335 November 11, 2006 With Skydive Chicago down the road, not much of a problem then... -------------------------------------------------- In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. ~ Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
loudtom 5 #336 November 24, 2006 ...tom #90 #54 #08 and now #5 with a Bronze :-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toolbox 0 #337 November 25, 2006 Correct response. I bet this guys last words will be "watch this". I just hope it's not while he is doing a tandem. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Allballs 0 #338 November 27, 2006 Cant believe you all still writing to keep this thread going, How about giving Jacko a little time of from all the bad energy and negativity you continue to fuel. I think its time to leave this poor guy alone he has been punished enough!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toolbox 0 #339 November 27, 2006 I'm not writing on this thread to punish anyone. I'm simply responding to a friends post in agreement. I must say however that seeing what he has done made my jaw drop in disbelief. After all the tandem stuff over the last year,he gets taped flying outside the industries parameters for what is still considered a student skydive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
loudtom 5 #340 November 28, 2006 Since I just became an S&TA if any of this DZ's people need to be signed off I would gladly help out. Just pm me and we will make it happen. yotom #90 #54 #08 and now #5 with a Bronze :-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nessieo 0 #341 February 4, 2007 em in a ridiculous googling my own name stunt with some buddies i came across a link to here....as i was one of the ppl who had jacko as my instructor in csc for my1st tandem. and your right. my videos crap. and pretty embarassing, 2 of my friends went2 and theire people just did the normal stuff+they loook like theyre havin a great time!!i just look really scared+out of control.i was PETRIFIED cuz i really did feel like i was bobbing all over the place+ he did that side thingy+i felt like i was slipping out. ok i have no idea about the actual dangers of what he does, but i paid lots of money for the dive+video and i just felt really frightened....and i dont even show anyvody the video nemore cuz they laugh. he seemed like an alright guy, but now i see the stuff he was doing was actually DANGEROUS???what the fuck, thats so out of order. i had no idea+now i feel sickened Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slotperfect 7 #342 February 4, 2007 I heard from two different sources today that there are new developments in this situation. As promised, I have unlocked the thread so that they can be discussed. Please try and keep new discussion relevant to the progress of the situation and not just repeating more of the same. Thanks! Arrive Safely John Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sgt_ludy 0 #343 February 24, 2007 okay, now.. ??? who knows something? i´m really interested in this thread because a friend made a jump this summer with "jackson"... and actually loved it. you´ll find his video in this thread (a. teuchtmann, austria). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tonyhays 86 #344 February 25, 2007 Did you get the scoop on the new developments?“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sgt_ludy 0 #345 February 25, 2007 QuoteDid you get the scoop on the new developments? no? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Allballs 0 #346 February 27, 2007 Jacko got all of his ratings back after a board meeting at the recent symposium. I got the word yesterday. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NSEMN8R 0 #347 February 27, 2007 Does this mean it's ok to ride your students like that now? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #348 February 27, 2007 no but what will stop it from happening on the no video jumps Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewcline 0 #349 February 28, 2007 He got his USPA ratings back, what about his rig ratings? Or is that still a separate issue and unresolved? MattAn Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ozzy13 0 #350 March 1, 2007 This guy is going to kill someone . Has anyone called USPA about this ?Never give the gates up and always trust your rears! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
