towerrat 0 #1 October 8, 2006 Just a reminder to you TMs out there to practice cutaway procedures with both hands. Today after an uneventful tandem freefall I experienced a hard opening followed by a spin that rivaled a sport main spinning mal. It took everything I had with both hands to cut away, and it was FUCKING scary. I had close to 450lbs spinning almost horizontally under a set 400 , it was not fun. Be vigilant ladies, just because it's big doesn't make it docile during a malfunction.Play stupid games, win stupid prizes! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
efs4ever 3 #2 October 8, 2006 QuoteJust a reminder to you TMs out there to practice cutaway procedures with both hands. Today after an uneventful tandem freefall I experienced a hard opening followed by a spin that rivaled a sport main spinning mal. It took everything I had with both hands to cut away, and it was FUCKING scary. I had close to 450lbs spinning almost horizontally under a set 400 , it was not fun. Be vigilant ladies, just because it's big doesn't make it docile during a malfunction. I chopped a spinning Sigma 370 yesterday. Easy cutaway with one hand (My other hand was on the peeled reserve handle.) and nice Skyhook deployment. Thankfully I wasn't loaded up to the max, though. Thanks Bill!Russell M. Webb D 7014 Attorney at Law 713 385 5676 https://www.tdcparole.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USPA 0 #3 October 8, 2006 Just out of curiosity, did you peel? On my reserveride on a Vector 2 tandem I had alot of trouble cutingaway, untill I realised I forgot to peel (took about 2 seconds). After the peel, cutaway could be done with 2 fingers. (lineover EZ)The trouble with skydiving; If you stink at it and continue to jump, you'll die. If you're good at it and continue to jump, you'll see a lot of friends die... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
towerrat 0 #4 October 9, 2006 this is my third tandem mal and eighth ride in general. i'm very familiar with my EPs. This was a high speed, violent spin.Play stupid games, win stupid prizes! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billbooth 10 #5 October 9, 2006 Just curious...I assume it was a Strong tandem rig. If so, was your cutaway cable raw steel, or nylon/Lolon coated? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USPA 0 #6 October 9, 2006 I presumme you ment "yes" .The trouble with skydiving; If you stink at it and continue to jump, you'll die. If you're good at it and continue to jump, you'll see a lot of friends die... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
towerrat 0 #7 October 10, 2006 I believe this rig has the raw steel cables.Play stupid games, win stupid prizes! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattaman 0 #8 October 10, 2006 What do you think of the f'genuises who want a 280 square ft tandem main. You know how fast thats gonna turn with 500lbs and a spinning streamer. Yes, for those out there, turning tandem mains into higher performance canopies is the stupidest thing you can do, and there will be fatalities, don't act suprised when it happensThose stuck in maya, seek to be seen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #9 October 11, 2006 A decade or so ago, I learned that throwing the instructor's drogue release handle first helps reduce cutaway forces. Then you are only pulling two cables, instead of the original three cables. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverek 63 #10 October 11, 2006 QuoteA decade or so ago, I learned that throwing the instructor's drogue release handle first helps reduce cutaway forces. Then you are only pulling two cables, instead of the original three cables. From Bill Booth: "Well over 90% of all reserve uses on a Vector Tandem follow a cutaway. On the Sigma it's closer to 99.9%. So you really want to be sure that your canopy release system is as reliable as possible, don't you. When you add a third (drogue release) cable to the cutaway handle, you, at best, increase the force necessary to cutaway. (Due to increased housing friction) And at worst, you lower the reliability of your cutaway system. (If that third cable jams for any reason, you can't cutaway at all.) Increased complexity almost always leads to more malfunctions, and these three cable systems prove that point quite well. That's why Relative Workshop won't put a three cable system on any of our tandem rigs." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Laszloimage 0 #11 October 11, 2006 Congrats Randy! That's not how we doing it at the Ranch...hehehehe. -Dr. Laci Linetewist- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
towerrat 0 #12 October 12, 2006 QuoteDr. Laci Linetewist when did you become a doctor?Play stupid games, win stupid prizes! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Laszloimage 0 #13 October 12, 2006 You didn't know? I always been... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
Laszloimage 0 #13 October 12, 2006 You didn't know? I always been... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites