camamel 0 #1 November 11, 2006 I finally have everything the same (Tandems speaking) at my DZ. No more TV2 and no more EZ, only Sigmas with Sigmas 370 as mains. A friendly package for packers, instructors and riggers. I ask for a demo 340 earlyer this year but when RWS call me back one a month ago I was closing for the winter! I need a few more Sigma rigs for next summer but I won't be able to try that new main by myself so. My questions are? Do we really end up with a smaller rig? What about the toggle pressure between 340 and 370? What about the forward speed for the landing with no wind condition? Yes I like to have fun under a tandem canopy and that's why I have Sigmas main at my place, but my first priority is still my passengers safety. Does a TM need more skills with this smaller canopy? What if you end up with a line over or a tension knots ( I am sure Bill knows about that) is it the same as a 370. I would like to have input from instructors that jump it at least a few times to have a good idea. thanks all of you guys. RichardWhen you think you're good...this is when you become dangerous. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
douwanto 22 #2 November 12, 2006 Hi Richard, I had the opportunity to make several jumps on the 340 when I went through my TE course last year. Damn nice Canopy. I jumped it in the Micro Sigma and fell in love with it. I put 420 LBS under it not including the rig (not sure what the Micro weighs) and stood up the landing with little wind. Toggle pressure was minimal and response was wonderful. I recommend the Sigma 340 Highly . you wont be disappointed. I fly the Aerodyne A2 #50 and Love it as Well. It is not as High performance as the 340. I fly it aggressive an it does every thing I want or need from a solid all around tandem canopy. Price is why I have it in both of my rigs. You cant go wrong with either. I would recommend setting a minimal Tandem number for the 340 because of its quick solid response and overall elliptical feel. Hope this helps JM2C Chris Whitley Uncle/GrandPapa Whit Unico Rodriguez # 245 Muff Brother # 2421 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billbooth 10 #3 November 12, 2006 The Micro Sigma Rig (made for the Sigma 340 canopy) is 2" narrower than the standard Sigma, so you do get a smaller rig. Everyone around here who jumps the Sigma 340 says about the same thing...Sweet openings, a little faster, more responsive, and lighter toggle pressures than the 370...yet, it lands just as well. However, being smaller, it does require a slightly higher skill level with heavy loads. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverek 63 #4 November 13, 2006 Hi Bill, Just curious: 1. How many civilian Sigma rigs have been sold? 2. How many civilian Micro Sigma rigs have been sold? Just wondering Bart Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mixoligist 0 #5 November 13, 2006 QuoteEveryone around here who jumps the Sigma 340 says about the same thing...Sweet openings, a little faster, more responsive, and lighter toggle pressures than the 370...yet, it lands just as well. However, being smaller, it does require a slightly higher skill level with heavy loads. I have many jumps with the 340 and Bill has said it all correctly................................... Better you than me .................................. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiveoc 0 #6 November 13, 2006 OK I bought a 340 and would probably not get another. I feel the thing performs not as well as the 370. 1. I am a tandem swooper and the 340 balloons me (like a SET 400) if I plane out too high with an "out of gas"feeling at the end with not alot of lift left. The 370 keeps the dive around the corner and has no balloon effect. Kind of like a crossbraced canopy, staying in the dive but will stab out if need be. 2. I feel the 340 is less stable in the gusts than the 370. If one side closes, the effect is much more dramtic than with a 370. Yes toggle pressure is light and it is fun and fast but the real test is 10 feet off the ground where you sometimes have to be on it. So, its not my favorite canopy and I would probably buy an Icarus 365 if I was to do it again. Why? to date: 8 RWS chops on 370's in 3000 tandems and Zero on the same number of Icarus tandems. Thats one missing canopy and several freebags and PC's to pay for. josh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
camamel 0 #7 November 13, 2006 Hi Bob How many jumps do you have with the 340? Do you have some with the 370 so I can use your experience as a reference. Here we have couples thousands jumps with the 370 and I am happy with it except it is a little bit tought on the toggle with a 200 pounders other wise it is, in my mind,the best all around tandem canopy. By the way did you try the micro tandem. Two years ago two DZO that I know order them but send them back un happy. I also herd that RWS change the original version. I am looking to buy those as well. Thank's RichardWhen you think you're good...this is when you become dangerous. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
STI 0 #8 March 22, 2007 Bump: Any new opinions on the Sigma 340 canopy and Micro Sigma rigs? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
camamel 0 #9 March 25, 2007 When UPT finally give me a call to let me know they had a démo 340 it was too late, my season was over (October 2006). In 2006 I had 6 Sygmas all with 370 mains. For 2007 I ordered 3 more of those. Even if there is not that much difference for the packers some instructors will for sure ask for one set up or the other. So from my point of view in order to bring something different to my DZ it has to be really better or safer, otherwise I will stay with 100% the same. Because I never had the chance to try it myself I decided to thrust the most experienced guy who answerd me skydiveoc. I will ask UPT to send me one démo this summer so I can compare by myself. Hope that can help you. RichardWhen you think you're good...this is when you become dangerous. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites