skydiverek 63 #1 November 27, 2007 What are they? I believe Sigma rig was released in year 2000, seven years later what has changed? I noticed: - Skyhook, - main pin cover is now "bent" for better tuck-in, - 'Micro Sigma' is now available, - magnetic riser covers, - transparent reserve pin cover flap (change ?), What else Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AggieDave 6 #2 November 27, 2007 The clear reserve pin flap was there. It also appears that they have different hardware on the legs and chest strap on the newer rigs. The crystal ball is gone with the skyhook as well.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skydiverek 63 #3 November 28, 2007 QuoteThe clear reserve pin flap was there. Isn't the transparent window MUCH bigger now? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AggieDave 6 #4 November 28, 2007 I think it might be, I'm trying to remember now. I never noticed. I guess size doesn't really matter. --"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diablopilot 2 #5 November 28, 2007 An almost non bendable reserve pin to address riggers who over tighten closing loops to conceal P/C's from popup. Shorter straight main pin to help prevent a hard/no pull situation if improperly stowed. Got rid of the RSL "ball" thus removing the possibility of the ball accidentally being jammed into the large ring. Improved the attachment of the "ball" handle on the drogue reducing the lost handle phenomena. Improved drogue bridle. Built in replaceable sections using slinks for connections. More durable design within the "chimney" of the "disk". Good work Mr. Booth and crew! The absolute best and safest tandem rig on the market today! My first and only choice.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pchapman 279 #6 November 28, 2007 Quotedifferent hardware on the legs and chest strap on the newer rigs. And similarly: -- Different main lift web length adjustment method, using different hardware. (Much easier to adjust.) Minor: -- No Skyhook to Skyhook to Skyhook II or whatever the latest version is called (hologram, anodizing, clear plastic cover with hole for safety tie, more labelling, etc) Non-physical changes: -- New manual (For the Sigma rig and canopy; not just a Tandem Vector II manual that showed some archaic methods plus some incomplete add-ons for the Sigma.) -- New reserve packing method (Propack not a special flatpack.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skydiverek 63 #7 November 28, 2007 One more came to my mind: 'condom' for the disc. It used to be bare metal only - not any more. Anything else Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diablopilot 2 #8 November 29, 2007 Next "advancement" I've been waiting to see......Velcroless risers and toggles.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AggieDave 6 #9 November 29, 2007 If only there was some company out there that could make risers for the Sigma tandem system that could use magnets to hold stuff in place...oh.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diablopilot 2 #10 November 29, 2007 No magnets needed. Simply a "fold and tuck" at the bottom of the toggle along with the current brake stow and the snap would do.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rhys 0 #11 November 29, 2007 QuoteNext "advancement" I've been waiting to see......Velcroless risers and toggles. Velcro on the risers is my only complaint about the system. One thing that hasn't been mentioned is the nice handles for carrying the rigs around. I don't know if theya re an optin but out of the 4 brand new rigs we recived at my last DZ only 2 had them and 2 didn't."When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites matthewcline 0 #12 November 29, 2007 Those are out (from another company) and they are awesome! The carry handle is great as mentioned a few posts up too! I thought the all clear window was a Micro Sigma thing and the two smaller windows was a regular Sigma thing, at least that is how I have seen the break down at the DZ I was jumping at a lot this summer and they have 12 Sigma's on the rack ready to go.An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diablopilot 2 #13 November 29, 2007 Who's making them?---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites matthewcline 0 #14 November 29, 2007 I think it is Altico, but I could be wrong, I got them attached to a Demo Tandem Canopy and boy they are nice! Red at Flight Concepts would know, that is where the Demo Canopy came from (by the way the Rage Tandem in its current line trim is awesome too!). Both sets of my velcro equipted toggles started to fray (edges of the hook base and it is a bit unsightly).An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites klingeme 1 #15 November 30, 2007 QuoteNext "advancement" I've been waiting to see......Velcroless risers and toggles. It's in the works. Not with magnets though. Although they (Magnets) are now being added to the main disc cover flap. Mark Klingelhoefer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skydiverek 63 #16 December 18, 2007 One new cool feature is the SPECTRA reserve ripcord (instead of metal cable), with a nice 'bungee' feature. Check it out!: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1J_zE3eFdw Cool ! P.S. BTW, here is the Part Two of the above interview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSVRSIicQDk Enjoy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diablopilot 2 #17 December 19, 2007 IMO that's not an improvement.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skydiverek 63 #18 December 19, 2007 QuoteIMO that's not an improvement. Why? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skydiverek 63 #19 February 22, 2008 Quote(Magnets) are now being added to the main disc cover flap. Is the flap still "bent" 180 degrees? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. 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AggieDave 6 #2 November 27, 2007 The clear reserve pin flap was there. It also appears that they have different hardware on the legs and chest strap on the newer rigs. The crystal ball is gone with the skyhook as well.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverek 63 #3 November 28, 2007 QuoteThe clear reserve pin flap was there. Isn't the transparent window MUCH bigger now? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #4 November 28, 2007 I think it might be, I'm trying to remember now. I never noticed. I guess size doesn't really matter. --"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #5 November 28, 2007 An almost non bendable reserve pin to address riggers who over tighten closing loops to conceal P/C's from popup. Shorter straight main pin to help prevent a hard/no pull situation if improperly stowed. Got rid of the RSL "ball" thus removing the possibility of the ball accidentally being jammed into the large ring. Improved the attachment of the "ball" handle on the drogue reducing the lost handle phenomena. Improved drogue bridle. Built in replaceable sections using slinks for connections. More durable design within the "chimney" of the "disk". Good work Mr. Booth and crew! The absolute best and safest tandem rig on the market today! My first and only choice.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pchapman 279 #6 November 28, 2007 Quotedifferent hardware on the legs and chest strap on the newer rigs. And similarly: -- Different main lift web length adjustment method, using different hardware. (Much easier to adjust.) Minor: -- No Skyhook to Skyhook to Skyhook II or whatever the latest version is called (hologram, anodizing, clear plastic cover with hole for safety tie, more labelling, etc) Non-physical changes: -- New manual (For the Sigma rig and canopy; not just a Tandem Vector II manual that showed some archaic methods plus some incomplete add-ons for the Sigma.) -- New reserve packing method (Propack not a special flatpack.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverek 63 #7 November 28, 2007 One more came to my mind: 'condom' for the disc. It used to be bare metal only - not any more. Anything else Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #8 November 29, 2007 Next "advancement" I've been waiting to see......Velcroless risers and toggles.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #9 November 29, 2007 If only there was some company out there that could make risers for the Sigma tandem system that could use magnets to hold stuff in place...oh.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #10 November 29, 2007 No magnets needed. Simply a "fold and tuck" at the bottom of the toggle along with the current brake stow and the snap would do.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #11 November 29, 2007 QuoteNext "advancement" I've been waiting to see......Velcroless risers and toggles. Velcro on the risers is my only complaint about the system. One thing that hasn't been mentioned is the nice handles for carrying the rigs around. I don't know if theya re an optin but out of the 4 brand new rigs we recived at my last DZ only 2 had them and 2 didn't."When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewcline 0 #12 November 29, 2007 Those are out (from another company) and they are awesome! The carry handle is great as mentioned a few posts up too! I thought the all clear window was a Micro Sigma thing and the two smaller windows was a regular Sigma thing, at least that is how I have seen the break down at the DZ I was jumping at a lot this summer and they have 12 Sigma's on the rack ready to go.An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #13 November 29, 2007 Who's making them?---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewcline 0 #14 November 29, 2007 I think it is Altico, but I could be wrong, I got them attached to a Demo Tandem Canopy and boy they are nice! Red at Flight Concepts would know, that is where the Demo Canopy came from (by the way the Rage Tandem in its current line trim is awesome too!). Both sets of my velcro equipted toggles started to fray (edges of the hook base and it is a bit unsightly).An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
klingeme 1 #15 November 30, 2007 QuoteNext "advancement" I've been waiting to see......Velcroless risers and toggles. It's in the works. Not with magnets though. Although they (Magnets) are now being added to the main disc cover flap. Mark Klingelhoefer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverek 63 #16 December 18, 2007 One new cool feature is the SPECTRA reserve ripcord (instead of metal cable), with a nice 'bungee' feature. Check it out!: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1J_zE3eFdw Cool ! P.S. BTW, here is the Part Two of the above interview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSVRSIicQDk Enjoy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #17 December 19, 2007 IMO that's not an improvement.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverek 63 #18 December 19, 2007 QuoteIMO that's not an improvement. Why? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverek 63 #19 February 22, 2008 Quote(Magnets) are now being added to the main disc cover flap. Is the flap still "bent" 180 degrees? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites