Phil 0 #1 November 27, 2001 Just wondering as I’m jumping on different DZ (Switzerland, Austria) how many of your DZ have clear landing instructions like a left hand landing pattern. With this I mean downwind - base - final. Some of the DZ are using this approach but others its more like everyone to him/herself. I found the d –b-f version very helpful with a lot of air traffic and not much space on the ground.How is it at your home DZ?Blue onesPhil Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallinWoman 1 #2 November 27, 2001 We have a bunch of landing "suggestions':1. left hand pattern2. land in the direction of the wind T3. first man down sets landing direction4. no "s" turns over landing area5. don't spiral into traffic Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flow 1 #3 November 27, 2001 For the students, left hand pattern, others may land what suits best for them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #4 November 27, 2001 "We have a bunch of landing "suggestions'"We have those too. In reality those mainly apply to the less experienced jumpers. Experienced "Canopy Pilots" land how they want but it's basically your ass if you screw someone. I say clear your airspace and.....HOOK IT!!!!!!! "Shut up Dummy!"- Fred G Sanford Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveMonkey 0 #5 November 27, 2001 I'm normally on big floaty canopies (usually 220's), so I just do my own thing as everyone is down well before me (the experienced guys at my dz all jump EXTremes etc). I've normally got the air to myself so I land how I like. It's bounce that hurts, so grab the grass !! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 2,991 #6 November 27, 2001 Most drop zones I've been at use a standard pattern, either left or right hand. With a single Caravan, often the issue doesn't come up. When you're doing a 120 way, it comes up a great deal, because everyone has to stick very closely to a pattern.The usual system I use (also seems to be the most common system for DZ's) is that you pick right vs left so that you don't cross the runway at a low altitude i.e. always fly downwind away from the runway, not over it. For some DZ's (like Brown Field) that's not a determining factor because the runway is miles from the LZ.-bill von Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lazerq3 0 #7 November 27, 2001 We just kinda have either first one down sets the pattern or land in the wind. But then again theres ussaully only 4 to 5 jumpers in the air at once.jason Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zennie 0 #8 November 27, 2001 We're supposed to use a left-hand pattern, with only C & D licensed jumpers allowed to land over by the beer line. The beer line rule has actually done more to improve the traffic problems than the left-hand-pattern rule, who no one seems to follow (though I normally do).I've found that canopies seem to group into little "clusters" at different altitudes. So what I usually do is look down & see what the lowest people are doing and then find a slot between vertical clusters so that I have some time to set up an approach.Since I've been working on riser carves, I find that I normally have one or two people who are setting up about the same time. So I just sort of watch what slot they're taking and then find an open one and take my own."Wear the grudge like a crown. Desperate to control. Unable to forgive. And we're sinking deeper." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Designer 0 #9 November 29, 2001 Different as many DZ,s.I love the left hand pattern as my standard! I always ask first when filling out a new waiver at a new DZ.It,s nice to be on the same page with everybody else.Sometimes wind conditions require a diff pattern from the norm.Best to always watch for somebody not landing by the normal rules just to be safe.LOOK first!(Stay ahead of the game)no surprises I say!Rob. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
billvon 2,991 #6 November 27, 2001 Most drop zones I've been at use a standard pattern, either left or right hand. With a single Caravan, often the issue doesn't come up. When you're doing a 120 way, it comes up a great deal, because everyone has to stick very closely to a pattern.The usual system I use (also seems to be the most common system for DZ's) is that you pick right vs left so that you don't cross the runway at a low altitude i.e. always fly downwind away from the runway, not over it. For some DZ's (like Brown Field) that's not a determining factor because the runway is miles from the LZ.-bill von Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lazerq3 0 #7 November 27, 2001 We just kinda have either first one down sets the pattern or land in the wind. But then again theres ussaully only 4 to 5 jumpers in the air at once.jason Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zennie 0 #8 November 27, 2001 We're supposed to use a left-hand pattern, with only C & D licensed jumpers allowed to land over by the beer line. The beer line rule has actually done more to improve the traffic problems than the left-hand-pattern rule, who no one seems to follow (though I normally do).I've found that canopies seem to group into little "clusters" at different altitudes. So what I usually do is look down & see what the lowest people are doing and then find a slot between vertical clusters so that I have some time to set up an approach.Since I've been working on riser carves, I find that I normally have one or two people who are setting up about the same time. So I just sort of watch what slot they're taking and then find an open one and take my own."Wear the grudge like a crown. Desperate to control. Unable to forgive. And we're sinking deeper." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Designer 0 #9 November 29, 2001 Different as many DZ,s.I love the left hand pattern as my standard! I always ask first when filling out a new waiver at a new DZ.It,s nice to be on the same page with everybody else.Sometimes wind conditions require a diff pattern from the norm.Best to always watch for somebody not landing by the normal rules just to be safe.LOOK first!(Stay ahead of the game)no surprises I say!Rob. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites