Buried 0 #1 March 2, 2005 Hey All, I'm going to be in the orlando area between the 16th-19th of March and would like to get some tunnel practice in. Would I get something out of it just going by myself without a coach? Any one have any pointers (other than those is some recent threads) or would want to meet up? Clicky thx Where is my fizzy-lifting drink? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #2 March 2, 2005 Zach - We have a coached tunnel camp the 18th - 20th. All our time is committed by the 16 people, but if anyting opens up between now and then I'll contact you as a fill in. PM to me a cell number just in case if you want to. If you want to get time, you need to contact a coach or Skyventure RIGHT NOW. It books weeks and months ahead of time, but if you're just looking for a 15 minute slot or so, you might get in. If you book time during this period, let me know, maybe one of the coaches would hire out for a short bit if your session doesn't conflict with our camp - maybe not, we have a pretty full schedule for those guys - only way to find out though is to ask. Whatever happens, stop by and look for the guy that looks like my picture.(over there, to the left) You might also get to make some contacts with some really good coaches if they are around. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Srinard 0 #3 March 2, 2005 I am interested in getting some tunnel time too. I just called SkyVenture and the lady about camps. She said there is none, and none are going on. Is there a secret code word?? Or does she have her head in the clouds? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #4 March 2, 2005 QuoteIf you book time during this period, let me know, maybe one of the coaches would hire out for a short bit if your session doesn't conflict with our camp - maybe not, we have a pretty full schedule for those guys - I already have one side gig on Sunday I am also going to the tunnel Thursday... The tunnel is VERY full...."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #5 March 2, 2005 Yes, there is a code. Sorry I didn't give it to you. Call again, and say - Camps are 'festerful'. Then she'll clue you in. If she plays dumb still, ask for the manaager and repeat the festerful remark and insist it's ok to let you know about the camps. my bad - hope this helps ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #6 March 2, 2005 QuoteI already have one side gig on Sunday What, isn't one team, 10 individuals and 2 kids enough to keep you guys busy? It's a bitch to schedule and still get it so people are sharing as much as they think they should/can. That's it, our mission is to wear out the coaches before they wear us out. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buried 0 #7 March 2, 2005 See i'm thinking that either the 16th (not eve) or the eves of the 17th or ideally 18th would be good for me.. otherwise I'll be heading back to chicago for the most part. If I'm taking the time alone it would be 10-15 min, but hopefully would be able to fine somene to share some time to work on some other things together and independantly. Where is my fizzy-lifting drink? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #8 March 2, 2005 I've been (over) planning this thing for months, at this point the best I can do for you is recommend good coaches (already posted) and let you in if someone in my group breaks an ankle, gets sick, is a 'no-show' or decides they requested too much time. Send the note, our only overlap is day one (18th) so unlikely anyone will wuss out the first day. But it doesn't hurt just in case. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcandalysse 0 #9 March 3, 2005 Check out http://www.tunnelcoach.com/schedule/index.php The schedule shows full slots for your dates, but plenty of openings on march 14 and 20. Contact Sally and Martin, if something opens up they can put you in a slot... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #10 March 3, 2005 QuoteWhat, isn't one team, 10 individuals and 2 kids enough to keep you guys busy? It's a bitch to schedule and still get it so people are sharing as much as they think they should/can Well I normally would never take on MORE work during a camp. In this case it is two females and they have been refered by a friend to me. I work VERY hard to get anyone refered to me taken care of....I once drove to the tunnel to coach for 15 min at the request of a DZ.commer. That being said.... QuoteThat's it, our mission is to wear out the coaches before they wear us out. Bring the pain.....Lets see....List of coaches Chromy...Hell that guy LIVES in the tunnel, good luck wearing him out. Steve Hamilton...Yeah, I see him having a problem Me....Well You *might* get me....I have only done about ~9 hours (Mojo camp, two SOCOM camps, and a couple of "play" sessions) since Jan 1...So you might be able to wear me out.... Wanna bet a beer?"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vibeke 0 #11 March 3, 2005 Mentioned it in another post. If you are having trouble with getting a coach, the DaneZ have a tunnelcamp during that period and may be able to do coaching. Otherwise the SkyVenture staff can surely help you! They will know who is available. rehmwa and Ron, I cant believe you would turn down coaching. There is 24 hours a day and sleep is really overestimated j/k Edit to ad the email of DaneZ, the danish national team. Jess Roemer jess@danez.net_________________________________________________________ Your success and happiness, is in direct proportions to your commitment to excellence, regardless of your chosen field of endeavour. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #12 March 3, 2005 Quoterehmwa and Ron, I cant believe you would turn down coaching. There is 24 hours a day and sleep is really overestimated I will gladly do coaching. The problem is, I'm more in the category of needing the coaching rather than giving the coaching. That said, a couple of us will give Ron and co a rest by laying base for each other after the initial stuff. And once we go to 4-way drills on the team the coaches will get to rotate out a bit so the whole team gets in a drill with each other rather mixed with coaches. Ron - I'll bet you a beer - pushing drills and then block 7 til you drop. I'll just buy the beer up front to make it easier as I suspect you'll win this one. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #13 March 3, 2005 QuoteMentioned it in another post. If you are having trouble with getting a coach, the DaneZ have a tunnelcamp during that period and may be able to do coaching. Otherwise the SkyVenture staff can surely help you! They will know who is available. That camp is already being coached... Chromy, Steve Hamilton, and I are the three coaches. Rehmwa is my victum...... Quoterehmwa and Ron, I cant believe you would turn down coaching. I never turn down coaching...But this camp I am the coach, not the coachie. In this camp we have three coaches and 12 hours of time....I suspect the coaches will fly about 4 hours a piece as we will be doing two ways and maybe some two on two. Plus, Rehm and I have a bet"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #14 March 3, 2005 QuoteRon - I'll bet you a beer - pushing drills and then block 7 til you drop Nah, I got the drill...You'll love it. Its the mack daddy of all drills. 90-180-270-360-540, Comp-comp, Buddies-Other Buddies, Vertical hop to star, Slide-180. You'll love it!"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vibeke 0 #15 March 3, 2005 QuoteThat camp is already being coached... Chromy, Steve Hamilton, and I are the three coaches. Yes Ron but the guy who started the thread needs coaching, and so does srinard, - or at least that was how I read it Quote I never turn down coaching...But this camp I am the coach, not the coachie. Figured that much! And rehm: Go easy on Steve, I will need him to be in good condition when we arrive some weeks later! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #16 March 3, 2005 QuoteYes Ron but the guy who started the thread needs coaching, and so does srinard, - or at least that was how I read it OH, sorry...I thought I just communicated really badly..(I have been known to do that) I am really looking forward to meeting Rehm...And kicking his ass There is beer on the line, and that makes this serious shit.QuoteFigured that much! I love working with the Chromdog. And Steve is one of the best folks around. I am looking forward to working with him."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #17 March 3, 2005 1 - Ron thinks the camp is 12 hours - that's funny- we have 23 hours reserved over 3 days........Ron - Let me know what you think of the scheduling - 1 on 1, 2 on 2 rotating is likely correct and emplasizes my green team and maybe the others with more personal coach attention. Chromdawg has it for approval right now, I did my best to balance the days. The green team will do a lot in the tunnel sans coaching presence, but I really like the whole 2 coaches with two teammates, the the same drill with the other 2 teammates (coaches switch slots), then finish the drill with the 4 teammates while the coaches rest. I suspect a lot of block training is not the blocks themselves, but three ways with pieces partners and the coach too. It'll be great. 2 - I'll try to remember that drill, but I wasn't looking for the mental exhaustion component, just the fast out of breath fun drills. But I'll start creeping it tonight. (God I need to get into the sky - stupid snow). I like each of the drills, this just stacks 4 of them into one drill - with the student doing most of the work I might add. We'll see about that. If I really stink at it then Ron will have to work. 3 - Steve doesn't need anyone taking it easy on him. Last year he did much of his tunnel drills with a team and flew the entire time with one hand behind his back. the guy is phenominal and a great coach. He did his player coach training in between working a camp we had last year with 9 people. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #18 March 3, 2005 Quote1 - Ron thinks the camp is 12 hours - that's interesting- we have 23 hours reserved over 3 days........ Oh, uh....Damn, thats gonna hurt. Maybe I should just buy you a beer? Quote2 - I'll try to remember that drill, but I wasn't looking for the mental exhaustion component, just the fast out of breath fun drills Its both fast AND mentally hard..."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #19 March 3, 2005 QuoteOh, uh....Damn, thats gonna hurt. Maybe I should just buy you a beer?... Not a chance, I'll being buying the beer and much of the water and food during the day too. You guys will earn it, believe me. Also, for off time, a couple of us can come in and lay base for the newbies if the coaches want us to. Think Friday afternoon if needed. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #20 March 4, 2005 How much time do you want?"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Avion 0 #21 March 4, 2005 It depends, what do you want to work on flat flying, free flying, or both? With your ~2.5 hours of air time you could probably still learn alot from just the instructors or if you wanted more, a personalized brief and debrief you could get the tunnel instuctor coaching package that costs a little bit more than just block time. You should schedule your time now though, the tunnel busy, you can alway hire a coach to work with you after have some time scheduled. Just two cents from a poor 4 hour bunny Cheers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buried 0 #22 March 4, 2005 was looking for a 10, 15 or 20 min slot. first time in the tunnel so i thought I would get used to belly for a min or so and then backflying. Ideally I would like to work on my sit fly so it helps me in the air Where is my fizzy-lifting drink? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Avion 0 #23 March 4, 2005 I will probable have a 10 minute block on weds 16 or could make it thur 17, we could take a half hour if you wanted to get a 20 minute block. Or, I might be able to extend mine to a 15min. I've been working on belly, back and sit flying too, and relying on just the tunnel instructors. Usually a ten min block with 2 mins at a shot, some times 2.5mins depending on how many people are in that session. The first turn I do RW drills, then work on back/sit for the rest. They like to see that you have some ability to back fly before they let try sit flying. Sit flying is harder in the tunnel because the air speed is lower than in the sky. I'm still have trouble geting controlled lift in sit after 10mins or so. Each instructor want you to do things a little different. That's the only down side to relying on them, some times you have to put up with being re-instructed by each one. Then again, sometimes it good to have more than one teacher because one might have the answer to your difficulty. Cheers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeedToJump 0 #24 March 4, 2005 QuoteSit flying is harder in the tunnel because the air speed is lower than in the sky. Nope, it's just different. Whatever you are used to will be easier.Wind Tunnel and Skydiving Coach http://www.ariperelman.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Avion 0 #25 March 4, 2005 QuoteNope, it's just different. Whatever you are used to will be easier. I sit corrected Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
