BenHall 0 #26 April 29, 2005 Do farts stay in the tunnel? When we get it, we'll have to find a way to trap them inside, make it authentic! That brings up another question, do they smell different in an otter than a king air? We might have to do a little research next month . . . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #27 April 29, 2005 QuoteDo farts stay in the tunnel? Yep, what happens in the tunnel, stays in the tunnel. QuoteWhen we get it, we'll have to find a way to trap them inside, make it authentic! That brings up another question, do they smell different in an otter than a king air? We might have to do a little research next month . . . I understand that to simulate a King Air, there will be a dozen experienced jumpers standing off to the side in the tunnel with faraway looks in their eyes. To simulate the Otter, they will add a half dozen more."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heidihagen 0 #28 April 29, 2005 QuoteYep, what happens in the tunnel, stays in the tunnel. ewwwwwwwww! hahaha goodluck by the way... i lost a few hair bands in the wind tunnel.... a few ear plugs too! (i have no idea how they found their way past the helmet)i didn't lose my mind, i sold it on ebay. .:need a container to fit 5'4", 110 lb. cypres ready & able to fit a 170 main (or slightly smaller):.[/ce Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #29 April 29, 2005 QuoteI understand that to simulate a King Air, there will be a dozen experienced jumpers standing off to the side in the tunnel with faraway looks in their eyes. To simulate the Otter, they will add a half dozen more. And the tunnel simulating the King Air must have uncomfortably small doors but power up faster ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GQ_jumper 4 #30 April 29, 2005 no no no, you people have it all wrong!!! we would all go into a broom closet and fart in an enclosed area, so it would be more like farting in a plane, you wouldn't do it in the tunnel!! come on i can't think of everythingHistory does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #31 April 29, 2005 Yeah, I had the same thought, but it's more fun to mock King Air's. Their owners take it so personally. Edit: Actually, one of my teammates is particularly gifted in that area. Also farting. He was front float on a 16 way we were on one day out of an otter. He farted while on float position outside the airplane and the smell made the pilot swear. Yeah, I know, lot's of bodies and the natural airflow is back inside and rotate to the cockpit, but still. The real goal is if we can make that happen while he's rear float. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tdog 0 #32 April 29, 2005 Point 1 - farting in king airs vs. otters... I learned that in the otter there is an emergency exit across from the door. At least the otter in San Diego had an exit there... If you sit by the door - you are protected from farts - kind of like a protective layer of fresh air leaking thru the seals... It also protects you from your own farts, so you can fart all you want, as long as you can keep a poker face and blame someone else. Point 2 - recirculating... I was in the Perris tunnel when there was an unfortunate incident between the tunnel and one of our furry friends that was naturally born with feathers and wings... I found feathers in my jumpsuit a month after the incident. Me thinks I rather smell farts going in circles than the alternative of feathers and dead birds. ;-) Travis Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltdiver 3 #33 April 30, 2005 Oh, COOL! Finally horizontal wind tunnel we can all practice our tracking in!! ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #34 April 30, 2005 Be nice to Mar... Damm. I cant keep a straight face saying that! So when is that CO tunnel gonna be ready then? I may have a trip to Vail in October!Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoostedXT 0 #35 May 1, 2005 Right around then......need a place to stay let me know...I live across the street. JoeFor long as you live and high you fly and smiles you'll give and tears you'll cry and all that you touch and all that you see is all your life will ever be. Pedro Offers you his Protection. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #36 May 2, 2005 QuoteI cant keep a straight face saying that! Yeah right.. with all those kink sites you have uh.... shown us over the years.. I dont think you could manage a "straight" face. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #37 May 2, 2005 QuotePoint 1 - farting in king airs vs. otters... I learned that in the otter there is an emergency exit across from the door. At least the otter in San Diego had an exit there... If you sit by the door - you are protected from farts - kind of like a protective layer of fresh air leaking thru the seals... It also protects you from your own farts, so you can fart all you want, as long as you can keep a poker face and blame someone else. Here's another trick if you sit near the door(s) in the otter: Once your teammate let's one go, wait a bit for it to expand. Then open the door about 6 inches and count to 5 slowly - shut the door. It will almost perfectly place the moist air mass in the cabin just short of the cockpit. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paige 0 #38 May 2, 2005 QuoteQuoteIt will be a re-circulating tunnel!!! There will be NO FARTING in the CO tunnel Seriously. We have to deal enough with that on the planes. The heat will kill you long before the smell of the fart Tunnel Pink Mafia Delegate www.TunnelPinkMafia.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BenHall 0 #39 May 2, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuoteIt will be a re-circulating tunnel!!! There will be NO FARTING in the CO tunnel Seriously. We have to deal enough with that on the planes. The heat will kill you long before the smell of the fart Fixable, no problem! Just add an AC somewheres in the circuit. How do you expect those tunnel rats to survive in the real world if they've never dealt with the "flatulence experience"? (coming to a tunnel near you!). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paige 0 #40 May 2, 2005 QuoteFixable, no problem! Just add an AC somewheres in the circuit. You've obviously never been to Flyaway, omg the heat. They have an AC, it does nothing! In Vegas, an instructor lost 9lbs in one dayTunnel Pink Mafia Delegate www.TunnelPinkMafia.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paulipod 0 #41 May 2, 2005 QuoteYou've obviously never been to Flyaway, omg the heatUnsure. They have an AC, it does nothing! Tunnels can be cooled just need to install the right size/type of unit. Many science tunnels regulate temperature... Bodyflight Bedford www.bodyflight.co.uk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paige 0 #42 May 2, 2005 QuoteQuoteYou've obviously never been to Flyaway, omg the heatUnsure. They have an AC, it does nothing! Tunnels can be cooled just need to install the right size/type of unit. Many science tunnels regulate temperature... Okay, how big would an AC unit have to be? What would the costs be like? Those poor FlyAway guys should have AC envy I guess Size does matter Tunnel Pink Mafia Delegate www.TunnelPinkMafia.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BenHall 0 #43 May 3, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuoteYou've obviously never been to Flyaway, omg the heatUnsure. They have an AC, it does nothing! Tunnels can be cooled just need to install the right size/type of unit. Many science tunnels regulate temperature... Okay, how big would an AC unit have to be? What would the costs be like? Those poor FlyAway guys should have AC envy I guess Size does matter Well the size would have to depend on the thermal properties of the flatulence. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paulipod 0 #44 May 3, 2005 Quote Okay, how big would an AC unit have to be? What would the costs be like? Without going into local ambient / structural influence etc you could guess at least 50% of the motor power would need to go into a cooling unit. Our chillers are HUGE and cost an arm and a leg - but to get a regulated flow temperature it is necessary. Quote Well the size would have to depend on the thermal properties of the flatulence. This is the reason we do not allow lighted matches in the tunnel we need to ensure the recirculated gases remain un-harmful at least in the temperature stakes anyhow! Bodyflight Bedford www.bodyflight.co.uk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bodyflight.Net 0 #45 May 3, 2005 Hey Paige.. Just for reference.... your home cooling systems takes care of a thousand cubic feet air.. and cools it... you know about how much that costs each month.. Now a tunnel AC unit.. needs to cool over a MILLION cubic feet of air PER SECOND... That would make it about what.. a hundred times larger & more expensive than the average home unit... Although we have our own working theory... that you could use water to cool the air, instead of AC... which, if we can make it work.. will mean ALL tunnels could afford a cooling system.. Pink Suits, Blue Skies & Fast Tunnels, Dawn Suiter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paige 0 #46 May 3, 2005 Now that's some serious cash and AC! Thanks for putting that into terms even I can understand and compare That water theory sounds pretty sweet, would we get wet in there then? I'm sure that's the dumbest question and not at all how it would work but hey, for the sake of knowledge Tunnel Pink Mafia Delegate www.TunnelPinkMafia.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bodyflight.Net 0 #47 May 3, 2005 That's the tricky part of it... but I wouldn't consider it a success if we all got wet.. even slightly.. It would be similar to those misting machines you see at theme parks... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paige 0 #48 May 3, 2005 QuoteIt would be similar to those misting machines you see at theme parks... Now that would be nice. Those were the best at all day music festivals Tunnel Pink Mafia Delegate www.TunnelPinkMafia.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spizzzarko 0 #49 May 3, 2005 When using water to cool things you need to have a relativly dry enviroment for it to be effective. A swamp cooler type of mechanism doesn't work very well in Houston or Florida if you know what I mean. Also using the water could help to thicken the air up a little, as the field elevation of this tunnel will be 5,000+ feet. I think the main reason for the recirculating design is to keep the heat in the air. This will be huge, as it it still very FUCKING COLD here right now. You lowland florida types don't get to much snow, so you become sissyfied, and spoiled with your year round jumping. OK enough ranting and raging. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paulipod 0 #50 May 3, 2005 Water cooling / AC / etc are all pretty much the same idea - if you have a free source of cold water then that works great! Build your tunnel next to a lake and you have no problems I am guessing you mean using cold water to cool a coil or heat exchange of some sort in the air? If so its just then a question of pumping and source..... Our lack of lake side premises means we are installing mechanical chillers (ie AC) which cool a water/glycol mix this cooling is transferred to the air via air heat exchange coils (much like a car radiator in reverse) And as you say Dawn - is expensive! but well worth it for the quality of environment... I did consider just moving the UK to Florida - but that was pricey too! Bodyflight Bedford www.bodyflight.co.uk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites