skreamer 1 #1 August 25, 2001 A question for any of the more experienced freeflyers out there :I have my *weekends* on weekdays (hence my posting on a Saturday morning). Anyway, I am often the only person on a load sit flying (that and I'm inexperienced, so I am careful about who I jump with). So, I was wondering about any execizes I could do while doing a solo sit? Alti checks by moving my arms rather than my head are good. I have also been told to take a pull up cord with me and try passing it from hand to hand while maintaining a heading (in front and behind my back). These are good, but does anybody have any other exercizes that I could try?ThanksWill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #2 August 25, 2001 Try transitioning in your sit. Try left and right cartwheels. Then try front and back flips. Toe taps are another good exercise.Do I HAVE to do another raft dive??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites OmriMon 0 #3 August 25, 2001 Before u try and do cartwheels and flips u better learn to do controled turns, forward and backward movments and faster and slower fallrates, if u can't do that cartwheels and flips r pretty much worthless.Free Skies,Omri A-38593 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zennie 0 #4 August 25, 2001 I;m not experienced but I've gotten some tips from some experienced freefliers...I like the pullup cord drill. I'll have to try that next time.I do a little drill on my solo freeflies. Out in a sit. Left/right 360. Stop on heading. Left/right cartwheel. Stop on heading. Forward/back flip. Stop on heading.I've been doing this every solo sit. Helps a lot. Lately I've added at the end of that sequence cartwheel into head down. From there I'm working on controlling my speed and turns with my hands.--------Zennie"I know the pieces fit. 'Cause I watched them fall away..."--Tool Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites VivaHeadDown 0 #5 August 27, 2001 The pull up cord thing is pretty fun, but tie two together and take a friend out there with you. Pass it back and forth. It's fun and fine tunes your control (need steady slow movements to pull this one off) similar to what you'll need to dock.As far as solo stuff goes: You want complete vertical control of your sit, and to reduce the amount of sliding you do. Transitions are a major bonus (don't cork). Learn to control your fall rate better, and try really hard to get someone else in the air with you in a sit. You'll never really know how well you're doing until you have that reference. Sometimes you'll learn to compensate for one bad habit, and end up forming others without being able to tell.I just read this over and all I have to say is it's all just common sense things. You want to be able to dictate what your body is doing in this possition, so figure out your stengths and weeknesses and just keep trying to smooth them out. When you get really stressed, that's the best time to just fun jump with someone else. So many "first" FF jumps go to hell, but you'll see a difference over time. First you'll stay relative, then you'll come in close, then you'll be able to transition without losing your partner, and eventually you'll be able to dock. Read older article's written by Max Cohn in both Parachutist and Skydiving Mag., he's a genious for putting these techniques into words.Something I learned from experience and have been told a lot about from some good jumpers: find a consistant partner to jump with. You'll develop a lot faster if you have someone familiar with you. It allows for a lot more input about your mistakes (some you don't even notice), and once you get more confidant you know that you're not going to have to be there to coach someone new everytime you want to freefly. Not that helping out is a bad thing, it's a lot of fun to pass on skydiving knowledge, but it's also your $$$ that's got you in the air and you should be able to progress as well for that.Blah blah blah...I've never written this much before. Sorry about it all, I just really dig freeflying. : )VivaFreeflyingA skydiving fortune cookie says- A person with a good, controled, stable sit can act as base for any level of freeflyer, and that makes for safe learning. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ramon 0 #6 August 27, 2001 Sounds like your doing good Zennie.The pull up cord thing sounds like a good idea too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ramon 0 #7 August 27, 2001 For solo jumps transitions are bread and butter. You will learn to feel the air more and fly better just from doing them.Everyone figures out fall rate and foward movement when they start doing two ways and bigger. After 5 jumps where your buddy is 20-30 feet away you both start to make the effort to get closer, and thus learning happens.bloo skiesramon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zennie 0 #8 August 28, 2001 FYI there's a nice article about sitfly in the Sept. 2001 issue of "Skydiving". Might want to grab a copy at the DZ if you don't get it.--------Zennie"I know the pieces fit. 'Cause I watched them fall away..."--Tool Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zennie 0 #9 August 29, 2001 FYI (again). I found this article off of fruce's home page. Good discussion of sit/stand as well.--------Zennie"I know the pieces fit. 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OmriMon 0 #3 August 25, 2001 Before u try and do cartwheels and flips u better learn to do controled turns, forward and backward movments and faster and slower fallrates, if u can't do that cartwheels and flips r pretty much worthless.Free Skies,Omri A-38593 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zennie 0 #4 August 25, 2001 I;m not experienced but I've gotten some tips from some experienced freefliers...I like the pullup cord drill. I'll have to try that next time.I do a little drill on my solo freeflies. Out in a sit. Left/right 360. Stop on heading. Left/right cartwheel. Stop on heading. Forward/back flip. Stop on heading.I've been doing this every solo sit. Helps a lot. Lately I've added at the end of that sequence cartwheel into head down. From there I'm working on controlling my speed and turns with my hands.--------Zennie"I know the pieces fit. 'Cause I watched them fall away..."--Tool Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VivaHeadDown 0 #5 August 27, 2001 The pull up cord thing is pretty fun, but tie two together and take a friend out there with you. Pass it back and forth. It's fun and fine tunes your control (need steady slow movements to pull this one off) similar to what you'll need to dock.As far as solo stuff goes: You want complete vertical control of your sit, and to reduce the amount of sliding you do. Transitions are a major bonus (don't cork). Learn to control your fall rate better, and try really hard to get someone else in the air with you in a sit. You'll never really know how well you're doing until you have that reference. Sometimes you'll learn to compensate for one bad habit, and end up forming others without being able to tell.I just read this over and all I have to say is it's all just common sense things. You want to be able to dictate what your body is doing in this possition, so figure out your stengths and weeknesses and just keep trying to smooth them out. When you get really stressed, that's the best time to just fun jump with someone else. So many "first" FF jumps go to hell, but you'll see a difference over time. First you'll stay relative, then you'll come in close, then you'll be able to transition without losing your partner, and eventually you'll be able to dock. Read older article's written by Max Cohn in both Parachutist and Skydiving Mag., he's a genious for putting these techniques into words.Something I learned from experience and have been told a lot about from some good jumpers: find a consistant partner to jump with. You'll develop a lot faster if you have someone familiar with you. It allows for a lot more input about your mistakes (some you don't even notice), and once you get more confidant you know that you're not going to have to be there to coach someone new everytime you want to freefly. Not that helping out is a bad thing, it's a lot of fun to pass on skydiving knowledge, but it's also your $$$ that's got you in the air and you should be able to progress as well for that.Blah blah blah...I've never written this much before. Sorry about it all, I just really dig freeflying. : )VivaFreeflyingA skydiving fortune cookie says- A person with a good, controled, stable sit can act as base for any level of freeflyer, and that makes for safe learning. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ramon 0 #6 August 27, 2001 Sounds like your doing good Zennie.The pull up cord thing sounds like a good idea too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ramon 0 #7 August 27, 2001 For solo jumps transitions are bread and butter. You will learn to feel the air more and fly better just from doing them.Everyone figures out fall rate and foward movement when they start doing two ways and bigger. After 5 jumps where your buddy is 20-30 feet away you both start to make the effort to get closer, and thus learning happens.bloo skiesramon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zennie 0 #8 August 28, 2001 FYI there's a nice article about sitfly in the Sept. 2001 issue of "Skydiving". Might want to grab a copy at the DZ if you don't get it.--------Zennie"I know the pieces fit. 'Cause I watched them fall away..."--Tool Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zennie 0 #9 August 29, 2001 FYI (again). I found this article off of fruce's home page. Good discussion of sit/stand as well.--------Zennie"I know the pieces fit. 'Cause I watched them fall away..."--Tool Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
