scabbage 0 #1 December 13, 2006 I'm thinking about doing my ff1 in the new year. ive never done any freeflyin before so was thinking that it could be idea to do some tunnel time first? has anyone done it this way before? do you think it helps at all? cheers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
carrot 0 #2 December 13, 2006 im taking a guess your in the uk as you want to do ff1, i did a bit of tunnel time mixed in with my aff course a few months back, and now i have my FS1 im thinking the exact same thing, tunnel time then hit the freefly in the sky for real. Ive been looking at these freefly schools at both bedford and airkix, will be that way for theagm so thinking some time then http://www.avalorefreefly.com/wind_tunnel_coaching.php http://www.monstertunnel.co.uk/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
schnizzle 0 #3 December 13, 2006 I hear the Avalore tunnel camps are shaping up real nicely. They are running what's known as 'hybrid' camps so you pay a set fee and they'll coach you in the tunnel and in the sky - so your freefall skills are sure to improve. Seems to make sense to economise by training in the tunnel with good coaches, then translate those skills to the sky with the very same coaches! Worth a look for sure! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigelh 0 #4 December 14, 2006 Rob Silver (Monstertunnel) is out of the Country for 4 months, If you want to work towards your FF1 the tunnel will help you for sure, I offer coaching at Bodyflight, hollandnigel@aol.com Fabian Raidel is also in the Country alot, very good coach fabian_home@hotmail.com and BaByLoN are also offering a number of camps www.babylon-freefly.com-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Sponored by NZ Aerosports, CYPRES 2, Tonfly & L&B Team Dirty Sanchez #232 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
carrot 0 #5 December 14, 2006 will we need a gum sheild and body armour!? http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2411732;search_string=nigelh;#2411732 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigelh 0 #6 December 14, 2006 No not just yet, when you move on to advanced moves like that you'll need them -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Sponored by NZ Aerosports, CYPRES 2, Tonfly & L&B Team Dirty Sanchez #232 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mathyaz 0 #7 December 14, 2006 Skywalkers also runs several camps at Bedford. The next available ones goes from: 24.feb-2.april and 23-27 may. More info on tunnel@skywalkers.org Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
carrot 0 #8 December 14, 2006 pardon my ignorance!! which dz are you based im struggling to think your based Cheers...! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mathyaz 0 #9 December 15, 2006 Hi Andy. Skywalkers is a norwegian freefly team, we are based at Voss and Oslo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewnewell 0 #10 December 15, 2006 I strongly advice you to do some time in bedford with Fabian. Like Nige said very good coach and a wicked facility!!! Unbeatable combination. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
667 0 #11 December 29, 2006 Lerning to freefly in a tunnel is a realy supperb thing it is the perfect way to combine flying and coaching. It dosent get enny better.. We run freefly camps every second mont next one 27-29 of January (1Hour-475£) incl coaching. Freekflyer@hotmail.com Team Airkix freakfly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skreamer 1 #12 January 2, 2007 QuoteI strongly advice you to do some time in bedford with Fabian. Yeah, I'll third that. Fabian has both the in air coaching experience and the tunnel coaching and competitive experience. He knows how to teach and is a lot of fun to be around. Paul might own the business but Fabian owns that tunnel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RobMox 0 #13 January 12, 2007 What are the rules about becoming a tunnel coach? Dont you have to have a qulaification? I am interested in a camp but want to kow that my coaches have valid experience. How do I find out? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paulipod 0 #14 January 12, 2007 I would doubt any tunnel would allow someone who conducts unsafe practice to coach at their facility... so really the only real consideration you have is how good a coach you want... Reputation / word of mouth is always a good guage There are a few less qualified coaches out there that will look to improve their skills as they go along - but ultimately to a certain extent that trades off against the fact they will probably not charge too much either! We have world class coaches perfoming camps regularly if you want the certainty of experience Bodyflight Bedford www.bodyflight.co.uk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skreamer 1 #15 January 12, 2007 Quotebut ultimately to a certain extent that trades off against the fact they will probably not charge too much either! But given that the coach fee is always small in comparison to the tunnel time, IMHO you are better off going with an experienced coach. You'll pay a little more but you'll learn faster (and safer). I won't pay a tunnel coach because of their skydiving skills so they can get some free tunnel time (and a little cut by using their cheaper block rate), I pay for a coach because they have proven experience in teaching people to fly better in the tunnel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjuggler 0 #16 January 13, 2007 QuoteI won't pay a tunnel coach because of their skydiving skills so they can get some free tunnel time (and a little cut by using their cheaper block rate), I pay for a coach because they have proven experience in teaching people to fly better in the tunnel. Spot on! Too many people good at marketing themselves and getting good on other people's ££'s. I appreciate sometimes its a question of accessibility and availability to the good coaches. A lesser coach will be able to pass on certain skills and be more accessible and therefore beneficial to a paying customer. Also, everyone has had to learn to get to a certain level. However some people advertising "camps" have very limited experience and are using the student to gain tunnel time and improve their own skills before actually paying some of their own cash to invest in themselves and acquire the required skills. The toughest situation is finding out the coaches levels in the first place. Word of mouth helps, but seeing people fly and how they coach is the best way. I remember being recommended Fabian and then him recommending me Joao (when he was unavailable) a few years ago.... initially I thought it was just someone recommending a friend from the local DZ. (how wrong I was!) As it turns out they were super good and are two of the best tunnel flyers out there. As it turns out they were both very good at coaching too…. How a coach interacts with the student is also important. Some people are fantastic at breaking skills down and communicating them to the student. That said, I believe you have to know how to fly in the first place before being able to form an opinion why to fly certain ways….. and therefore how to teach….. Bedford and Airkix have some good tunnel coaches aswell as visiting external people. There are also good freefly teams visiting the tunnels which have started to fly in the tunnel. Some, not all, will definitely be able to provide excellent tuition. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites