Southern_Man 0 #26 February 15, 2013 Quote I was told that it tends to occur when the canopy lands in front of you. I also assume mini rings are slightly less susceptible to it. I don't know. I asked on of our TIs and he said that it happens when they lay the rig down on the packing mat. I'd say it happens somewhere between 10% and 25% of the time when I pack them. Can be hard to get them undone. TI told me he not only checks it prior to boarding but also checks the rings under canopy. Don't know it that is a standard check for TIs or not."What if there were no hypothetical questions?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fcajump 164 #27 February 15, 2013 QuoteQuote I was told that it tends to occur when the canopy lands in front of you. I also assume mini rings are slightly less susceptible to it. I don't know. I asked on of our TIs and he said that it happens when they lay the rig down on the packing mat. I'd say it happens somewhere between 10% and 25% of the time when I pack them. Can be hard to get them undone. TI told me he not only checks it prior to boarding but also checks the rings under canopy. Don't know it that is a standard check for TIs or not. The checks _should_ be part of the standard pre-board gear check and standard post-openning check. Unfortunately even good TI's can get distracted/complacent. The case I know of was a collection of mistakes by one of the few packers I let work on my rig, a DZ where folks do look after each other and by a highly experienced instructor that was usually very careful. Yet the facts of the failure and outcome are not in dispute... Lessons learned from that case: Packers - here's one more thing to look for/correct that can easily be overlooked if the rig is already layed out and you don't check. TI's - here's one more reason to double check that rig before you pick it up. EVERYONE - one more incident that could have been avoided if SOMEONE had offered my friend a gear check. (or if he had asked for one) We're in this together folks. LOOK and Question. I'd rather have an A licensed noob catch my mistake than not. Better embarased than hurt/dead. JAlways remember that some clouds are harder than others... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #28 February 15, 2013 Quoteharness holds LOL, I remember back in the 70s, way before AFF existed, when "harness hold" was the term for the way female novices at the DZ learned to freefall, while us guys purged our souls in Static Line Progression Hell. That's not all they learned, but whatever. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
