Partorg 0 #26 November 13, 2007 To me “Size” of the tunnel is a people inside of that tunnel and there ability to teach me how to freefly. They ability to make me feel good as a client and as a man. Paraclete XP is the biggest tunnel in the world in regard of those issues. In a 1H of total time I learned that good freeflyer can do miracles in a space 4 times smaller then XP, but even in a biggest one you might not learn anything if Fly boys are not like they in Paraclete. If management is not looking after you and make there business as flexible as possible for you then size does not matter.I'll see you when I see you and if I don't see you.........Hell with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Funflyer 0 #27 November 14, 2007 Quote I have been to both Bedford and the XP tunnel and they are the same size as far as I could tell. If one is bigger it's marginally so at best and not enough to make a difference to the flyers.........I really can't believe people are debating over the size of the tunnels, just be glad we have them, it's all good. It's nice to hear first hand information from someone who has flown in both tunnels! Your experience is just as I had imagined (possible difference beeing very marginal and no noticeable difference sizewise when flying). I agree that debating over the size is unnecessary. That is why I raised the question... to STOP the debate! However, I feel people are not debating... just curious. The ones debating are the tunnels! (by claiming to be bigger than others). To put my question in other form: which tunnel currently has accurate promotional information on their website? I am glad you have them! I wish we'll get one here as well. Even a bit smaller one. Peace, Juri Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stormywinters 1 #28 November 22, 2007 XP Rules my world, but I'm not the only one that has a hard time sleeping at night, thinking bout flying 10- 11 ways static head-down. Organized big ways with guys like Thomas Hughes and Mick Nuttal, will keep you up at night, counting points. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skykittykat 0 #29 November 24, 2007 What can I say, Paraclete is the BEST in the world!! Size aside, the airflow is perfect and all the staff are top notch - not only in their flying skills, but their personalities and teaching abilities as well. Beware - the kids are flying rings around people!!! Liz Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #30 December 1, 2007 You guys have a tremendously-tallented staff. I just wonder how you are going to spread out that tallent among the money-paying customers and still get enough hours on the time card. Again, I was slack-jawed at the show you guys put on in between the sets that I flew when I was there. Amazing shit. I have over 250 hours in the Bragg tunnel, but every single one of you (to include Amish, Droop, and the other new guys) are my superior in EVERY way. Respect, brother.. Chuck Blue D-12501 AFF/TM,SL-I, PRO, S&TA, BMCI-4 Z-Flock Wingsuit School/Performance Skydiving Z-Hills, FL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stormywinters 1 #31 December 1, 2007 We are not "Superior" to you in any way man! We will keep ourselves busy developing open lines of communication, and gain a better understanding of our team and its product, pre-briefing and de-briefing, to better serve our paying customers. Trouble shooting our week points, to make our drills safer and more productive. We also will not "bottle" this team in, they will continue to skydive, compete, and coach worldwide. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freefalljenn 0 #32 December 2, 2007 Yummy! This tunnel is unimaginatively large! And unimaginatively fast! As I was playing around in there, I was thinking about how it would not be unreasonable to have two sets of people in there each doing their own thing without running into one another. The staff is spectacular and everyone is very friendly. My friends and I split 6 hours this past weekend (no, I don't really want to talk about how my body feels right now). Having the space and the speed makes fantastic coaching even more effective. As I sit here typing this, I am thinking of ways to come up with the money to go fly again. I had been flying mostly at SkyVenture Orlando and AAC until this point, but I think it might be time to change my "home" tunnel. Also, BIG props to Mick for helping me to comfortably get to a point in the tunnel that I thought was dozens of hours away. His abilities to read a student and give the exact coaching they need are uncanny. He knows how to push students just far enough that they feel comfortable, but are doing things that they didn't know they could. And, he is super enthusiastic and genuinely elated when he sees how happy his students are learning new skills. Thanks Paraclete XP, Mick and Kim for coaching our group this weekend and Lisa for kidnapping me and taking me to the tunnel.jenn Tunnel Junkie Since November 2005! ;o)~ TPM #46 Paraclete XP TPM Delegate Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GQ_jumper 4 #33 December 4, 2007 I want to double tap everything that Chuck said about the tunnel and staff, I just spent an hour in there today and that tunnel is amazing. Cleanest tunnel I have ever flown in and the air is perfectly consistent. There's no drop off near the walls or door and it's fast as hell. I was turning points with John, Tim, and Samer and couldn't be happier with that tunnel. It was also a very humbling experience getting to walk into the building and be standing in the same room as Shannon, Kirk, Doug, John(Hoover and Hart), Thomas, Evolution, etc. etc. I've never been near so much talent in one place at one time. Getting to spend a few minutes chatting with them and then watching Knight Traxx fly was just icing on the cake. I'll definitely be back in the near future. And just to add, my flying after not being int he air for a year in comparison to the rest of the people in that room made it all that more easy to be humble. and for those of you that know me I'm sure you'll agree that's a pretty big accomplishment History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lana26 0 #35 December 7, 2007 Flew with Kim Worthington and mickey Nuttall............ Quality Instruction these guys are awesome. Tunnel is the best ever. Cant wait to come back, again and again and again Thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stormywinters 1 #36 December 7, 2007 maybe our "WEEK" points, would be spelling Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Partorg 0 #37 December 7, 2007 Quote maybe our "WEEK" points, would be spelling I think it's "WEEK DAYS" :)I'll see you when I see you and if I don't see you.........Hell with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stormywinters 1 #38 December 7, 2007 Where have you been hidding? Thought you were gonna bring that moto by? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Partorg 0 #39 December 9, 2007 I shall, but after New Year.I'll see you when I see you and if I don't see you.........Hell with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leroydb 0 #40 December 15, 2007 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertical_wind_tunnel#External_links I added a link for the tunnel to wikipedia.Leroy ..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kirkverner 0 #41 December 15, 2007 Awesome. Thanks ParacleteXP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leroydb 0 #42 December 18, 2007 Went to the tunnel today and, just want to highlight that I had a most execellent time in the tunnel today!I look forward to continuing "schooling" with EVERYONE there at SV-PXP. Leroy ..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aprilfly 0 #43 December 22, 2007 Im excited to go to this tunnel .... I am flying with Kim W in january i have only been in Orlando with her so this will be a great experience. Kim says it Rocks so i cant wait!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skykittykat 0 #44 December 24, 2007 Dan, wasn't that tunnel totally awesome?!!! Again, a HUGE thanks to all for everything, especially to Chris, Will and Plammer for putting up with me imporsonating a turtle out of conrol on it's back.... Hey, you were good enough to get me to fly my first RW point on my back!!!!! Have a wonderful Xmas. Liz Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lana26 0 #45 December 25, 2007 I think its time to give Kim or Yuki a call at Sdu so i can go see what all the fuss is and try this machine!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
michalm21 2 #46 December 25, 2007 Big thanks to Kirk, Chris, John, Earl, Sam and the rest of the tunnel crew! I had the best time. Simply amazing. I will make a 9 hour drive to get there as often as I can. Thank you! You guys are what keeps this sport alive Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
McDuck 0 #47 December 29, 2007 We just finished what I'd like to call "Tekken Tunnel League", but will most likely be called by a different moniker, and we had a BLAST! There were six 4-way-plus-stinger teams ranging from "fun to watch" to "kick-freakin-ass", and everyone left with a smile. Thanks to Tim, John, Kirk, T-Thack and all of the teams and observers for a great time! I can't wait to do this again. Keep an eye on ParacleteXP's website, as well as Sonicbeef's website for future installments. We'd love to see you out here. Kevin - Sonic Beef #5 - OrFun #28 "I never take myself too seriously, 'cuz everybody know fat birds don't fly." - FLC Online communities: proof that people never mature much past high school. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumper03 0 #48 January 2, 2008 I had to google what the heck Tekken meant - but yeah - pretty good description. It was a blast and I can't wait until the next one Scars remind us that the past is real Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
McDuck 0 #49 January 3, 2008 According to a few reliable sources, we were the most entertaining team to watch...mostly because of our penchant for dogpiling on YOU. Kevin - Sonic Beef #5 - OrFun #28 "I never take myself too seriously, 'cuz everybody know fat birds don't fly." - FLC Online communities: proof that people never mature much past high school. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunnelmom 0 #50 January 3, 2008 We have a big group of about 15 people coming to the tunnel from Colorado January 18th to January 21st and we can't wait! The kids (Team Future) are very excited to try it out and so are their parents, coaches, and friends! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites