VerticalRush 0 #51 September 27, 2009 why would getting their feet on the step be an issue? If their feet are not on the step put them there... grab their jump suit/ pant leg , situate there feet safely in position, and exit. Why take the risk and hope no one gets hurt? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnskydiver688 0 #52 September 28, 2009 I don't know if you have done tandems out of a 182, but it can be interesting to get your arms around them and be able to grab their leg and lift it up.Sky Canyon Wingsuiters Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dudeman17 343 #53 September 29, 2009 Just a couple cents' worth from someone who's been doing tandems for 20 years... If the student can't get their legs up enough, you can have them put their feet on top of yours and you push them forward on landing so they don't fold under. Or, if they can't move their legs at all (I've had a few people who were passed out) you can put your feet on one side of their legs (one foot to the side of each leg) and push them to one side on landing and roll into a sort-of PLF. Looks awkward as hell, but it works. As for having them help flare, I've done it both ways and prefer not to . They tend to want to slam on the brakes too hard too fast (even with practice beforehand) and you lose the ability to milk the flare through the current conditions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyshimas 0 #54 October 10, 2009 In aprx 1200 tandems I have one broken leg. I never let students flare with me but this time it was a training jump. It was no wind day, we practiced the landing many times up high so when the acctual landing time came we were ready. We finished the flare about 3 feet of the ground which is not perfect for me but when landing with a student helping you it happens most of the time because they tend to flare too high too fast. Over all it was a very good flare for the first level student and I didn't suspect anything had happened. Unfortunately student decided to lower his legs and his toe got cought- which broke his leg. It was complete surprise to me because there was no hard impact but it takes so little sometimes to get injured. On the regular paying tandems I never let them flair- why scare other students and yourself with shitty landings. My body which is my landing gare can only take so much. So no thank you I'll land us myself and if one wants to be involved then come and learn how to skydive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soulflychad 0 #55 October 14, 2009 Doing tandems takes a lot of practice. There are definitely techniques you can learn to prevent injuries to yourself and the student. There is always going to be that risk or injury that may happen unexpectedly. After 3,000+ tandems I sprained my ankle once really bad. I was out for a month because of my foot getting caught in a gopher hole, the student walked away injury free. I think back to when I had less than 1,000 tandems jumps and compare my experience and techniques with my jumping today. I'm much better at doing tandems, but it still does not take away the risk of an unexpected accident."Your mind is like a parachute: It only works when it is open." http://www.Skydive-Info.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
