Andrewwhyte 1 #1 June 5, 2012 Does anyone actually pack using the velcro? We got a new rig last week and didn't have time to sew it shut before it went into service. What a useless pain in the ass. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #2 June 5, 2012 That setup is extra awesome when the Velcro is near the end of its life span, and the canopy is brand new. "The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #3 June 5, 2012 When the velcro is new and maintained it is great IMHO, I like them better then the sewn shut ones.you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peek 21 #4 June 5, 2012 QuoteWhen the velcro is new and maintained it is great IMHO, I like them better than sewn shut. I'll second that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #5 June 5, 2012 We sew them shut right out of the bag."I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyfreek 1 #6 June 5, 2012 EhDub..... are you implying that you had to actually pack? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #7 June 6, 2012 Fuck you Dave. I did 19 tandems and packed 22 on Thu-Fri in Medicine Hat. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swoosh 0 #8 June 6, 2012 IMHO, the only people who don't believe in sewing them closed are those who have never sewn them closed. The Sky is NOT the Limit, the Dirt Is!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
feuergnom 28 #9 June 6, 2012 I think the logic of the bag with velcro is that it enables a "clean" packjob with the corners evenly stuffed (vs a "football-packjob") plus it boils down to what you are used to: if you never had the chance (or bad opportunity ) to pack a bag with the velcro still open, you will have problems closing it properly, simply because you don't know how to handle the stuff. reminds me of the pain of learning how to pack in the first place The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #10 June 6, 2012 could anyone post pictures of the bag ? never seen a Dual Hawk myselfscissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #11 June 6, 2012 The only people who sew them shut are to lazy to replace the worn velcro in the rigging loft, because after all 1/2 hour and 30 cent velcro is to much cost and time to maintain the gear.you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #12 June 6, 2012 QuoteThe only people who sew them shut are to lazy to replace the worn velcro in the rigging loft, because after all 1/2 hour and 30 cent velcro is to much cost and time to maintain the gear. Bullshit. I hate packing with brand new ones. If it is such a good system do you have your personal gear that way? It may have served a function when people were packing 520s, but with the 366 it does nothing but slow down the work. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theplummeter 15 #13 June 6, 2012 Our TI/Rigger loves the velcro. He maintains the gear and packs himself. He has jumped it both ways with a SET400. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #14 June 6, 2012 Quote If it is such a good system do you have your personal gear that way? Yea all 6 DHT's have new d-bags with un-sewn velcro side flaps. They don't get in my way packing I use them as designed. Oh and when the velcro wears out to the point it won't hold I'll spend about 30 mins picking stitches while watching TV or my kid play and then spend about 10 mins sewing on thirty cents worth of new velcro and while I'm at it, I'll fix any little wear issues I find on the bag before returning to service. I keep my riggers kit locked, but in the packing area if I need it and I fix and maintain the gear as needed when packing after each jump, it only takes an extra second to do it and do it right.... IMHO. For the record, I can pack using sewn d-bags too, no problem, but mine are not sewn for a reason, I like them that way!you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #15 June 6, 2012 And another thing.... for all the fucking people I see/hear in this industry bitching about strong tandem D-bags.... have any of you people ever picked up the damn phone and tried to call and speak to Ted and ask him to build you and send you custom sewn sided d-bags? I bet not, because I bet if you would have you might have gotten them made for you... hell call down there right now 407-859-9317 and ask for Mike Rinaldi if he don't answer the line in person, and then ask him if they make you a bag like that... you state your case to them! Other wise quit bitching about it already and keep sewing them shut. I have found nothing a great bunch of people who really do seem to give a shit and will go the extra mile to help someone who is doing business with them, that has always been my personal experience in dealing with Strong Ent. Have they done some shit I might bitch about in my deals, YES, did they always make it right or make it up down the road... HELL YES!you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #16 June 6, 2012 hereyou can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
feuergnom 28 #17 June 6, 2012 nice pics The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #18 June 6, 2012 Quote For the record, I can pack using sewn d-bags too, no problem, but mine are not sewn for a reason, I like them that way! We can pack using velcro d-bags... we just LIKE them sewn shut. "I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #19 June 7, 2012 Quoteherethank you. Do you mate teh velcro befor packing ? or do you first place your canopy and then mate the velcro ?scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #20 June 7, 2012 The idea is you place the S folded canopy on the laid out (open) bag and then wrap the top over it and mat the sides together.you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrigger1 2 #21 June 12, 2012 You can specify that the bags come without the velcro and sewn shut. Skydive Carolina has them delivered that way from Strong. We would order them that way, but I usually forget to tell them when I place the order for new ones. We just sew them together before the first use. Simply stack the canopy like you would if using the Velcro, slide the canopy about 12-14 inches toward the container, place the D-bag where the canopy was before you moved it, place canopy on TOP of the D-bag, and them simply pull the bag around the canopy. Works great everytime! ...and with less maintenance and repair costs to me!!! Cheers, MELSkyworks Parachute Service, LLC www.Skyworksparachuteservice.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #22 June 12, 2012 Quote Works great everytime! ...and with less maintenance and repair costs to me!!! Careful, they might call you lazy for that!! (btw, that 330 is still opening like a champ! Need to sew some kill lines on the slider now that it comes all the way down)"I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #23 June 14, 2012 Quote Careful, they might call you lazy for that!! Um, no, his smart enough to order the bags the way he wants them, or if he forgets too, he sews them shut, I have never seen him bitch about them before, or now.... un-like a great deal of people.you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #24 June 14, 2012 Quote Quote Careful, they might call you lazy for that!! Um, no, his smart enough to order the bags the way he wants them, or if he forgets too, he sews them shut, I have never seen him bitch about them before, or now.... un-like a great deal of people. We order them sewn shut, but the occasional velcro one shows up, and we sew it shut. "I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swoosh 0 #25 June 14, 2012 Uh, no one is bitching, this was a poll, remember?? The Sky is NOT the Limit, the Dirt Is!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
