westcoastSD 0 #1 September 19, 2013 Hi there, I am interested in knowing the total weight of a strong tandem rig. with and without passenger harness. I have searched here and online and only can come up with allowed suspended weights etc... Specifically with a Hop 330 in it? or any 330 would be sufficient. This is in relation to an accident finding that I am dubious about. thanks in advance for any helpful information. cheers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #2 September 19, 2013 about 75 lbs or so.you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
faulknerwn 38 #3 September 19, 2013 I think its more like 55-60. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #4 September 19, 2013 http://strongparachutes.com/docs/Tandem/DHT_2012.pdf page 11 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
westcoastSD 0 #5 September 20, 2013 Hi Thanks for the input. 53lbs/24 kg for the entire system seems a little light from my experience. Though this is from the horses mouth. Are the student harnesses not around 5KG in themselves? Can anyone clarify this with an actual rig? Cheers. The finding I have is in relation to a fatal crash. The rigs were logged as weighing 15kg each... this tells me the W&B chart was bogus and this is more than an accident. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TaylorC 0 #6 September 20, 2013 every time i weighed myself with a strong rig on it was 50 pounds heavier then without. The harness weighs 8 pounds i believe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pchapman 279 #7 September 20, 2013 westcoastSD The finding I have is in relation to a fatal crash. The rigs were logged as weighing 15kg each Obviously there's more to the story than I know. But if a DZ or an investigator estimates gear at 15kg per jumper, then that will adequately cover a heavy tandem rig - when shared between 2 people on the plane. If the 15kg was supposed to be the tandem rig itself, that's another matter. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
westcoastSD 0 #8 September 22, 2013 Hi, No I have the complete finding which at this point is private and confidential. I have had conformation from a master rigger that a strong rig with master reserve and cypres2 using a hop 330 (heavy for their size apparently) weighs... 24.8 kg and the pax harness 3.7kg total rig weight 28.5kg. 13.5 kg per rig heaver than stated on W&B 4 pax on board. cheers for all the input. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #9 September 22, 2013 If this is for a lawsuit, find one and weigh it. Scientific method at its best. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 798 #10 September 23, 2013 Ye of such little doubt, simply tossing aside the scientific value of internet trolls. Damn you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justme12001 0 #11 September 24, 2013 I have weighed a strong rig with a SET 366 in it and it was 54 lbs. Didn't weigh the harness. Passengers are always asking how much they weigh and I got tired of hearing all the different answers from the different instructors(everything from 50 to 75 lbs), so out of curiosity me and two other instructors went and weighed one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyMarko 1 #12 September 24, 2013 TaylorCevery time i weighed myself with a strong rig on it was 50 pounds heavier then without. The harness weighs 8 pounds i believe Than* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites