cbassmnm 6 #1 September 30, 2014 From the UPT website, test for sigma tandem endorsement (not the new one) the first question is " historically, what is the leading single cause of tandem fatalities? Then followed by: What does the vector 3 tandem system do to address this problem? I was just wondering the answer to those questions. I'm not taking the tandem course, nor do I want to anytime soon. I was just wondering. Anyone want to shed some light? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pchapman 279 #2 September 30, 2014 I think they mean "out of sequence deployment", thinking back to pre-Sigma days, when there was a pin or short cable holding the pack closed, while the drogue is attached by a 3 ring nearby. Similar to what the Strong tandem still does. If the pack opened one could have the bag dancing about overhead with the drogue still attached, maybe main risers out of the covers too, a sort of horseshoe of sorts, and quite dangerous if emergency procedures were not carried out in the correct sequence. This is opposed to the Sigma disk that both closes the pack and anchors the drogue all in one, making it very very difficult to have the bag out but drogue still attached. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
douwanto 22 #3 September 30, 2014 Failure to Follow Procedureis the leading cause of Tandem Fatalities. The disc and locking pin eliminate some opportunity for out of sequence deployment but do not do away with it completely and following procedure starts well before the jump on the ground and ends on the ground after the jump is complete and the student has safely left the property. Uncle/GrandPapa Whit Unico Rodriguez # 245 Muff Brother # 2421 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #4 October 1, 2014 TI error. Pulling handles in the wrong sequence. Sigma's disc reduces the risk of an out-of-sequence deployment, but does not eliminate the risk. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
feuergnom 29 #5 October 7, 2014 during my TICC I was given a synopsis of all tandem-fatalities including date, gear used and analysis of what went wrong. freaking good read for that moment. As already mention #1 was operator error = pulling handles in the wrong order. I guess this list is still floating around somewhereThe universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverek 63 #6 October 8, 2014 Here is the list, from 80s till approx year 2005: http://www.unitedparachutetechnologies.com/index.php/ti/category/worldwide-tandem-parachuting-fatalities Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #7 October 13, 2014 Thanks for the list. I watched one of those and am knew a couple of the others. Damn, that's a lot of dead people. How can such experienced jumpers pull the handles in the wrong order? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krip 2 #8 October 13, 2014 JohnMitchell Thanks for the list. I watched one of those and am knew a couple of the others. Damn, that's a lot of dead people. How can such experienced jumpers pull the handles in the wrong order? Hi John Take another look at the list. A significant # of the Tms didn't have that many tandems Do you remember the guys from the Coors team. Two guys from the team went up together between the TM and the passenger they ea had 1000' s of belly jumps. But the TM only made a few Tandem jumps after he got his rateing, and wasn't current doing tandems. I think after that one the option for the passenger to be able pull a handle was added. Talk about ground rush. The poor guy in front knew something wasn't right all the way The TM was busy trying to figure out what to do. They ea had multiple kids, with no life insurance.Now that the tandem bucket list flood gates have opened, the TM can get lots of jumps very quickly. And should be able to stay current.One Jump Wonder Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
feuergnom 29 #9 October 14, 2014 skydiverekHere is the list, from 80s till approx year 2005: http://www.unitedparachutetechnologies.com/index.php/ti/category/worldwide-tandem-parachuting-fatalities Mine was much more exhaustive and didn't come from UPTThe universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kaiser 20 #10 December 14, 2014 Shed some light! The leading cause for Tdm fatal n:. the ones left with serious injuries in 2014 leading cause!drug & alcohol,abuse on a daily basis. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raff 4 #11 December 19, 2014 cbassmnmFrom the UPT website, test for sigma tandem endorsement (not the new one) the first question is " historically, what is the leading single cause of tandem fatalities? Then followed by: What does the vector 3 tandem system do to address this problem? I was just wondering the answer to those questions. I'm not taking the tandem course, nor do I want to anytime soon. I was just wondering. Anyone want to shed some light?We would do well to remember that the OP has no profile info and could very well be on a phishing expedition. This is NOT the forum for such a question. If, in fact, this is a legit inquiry, the OP should contact the various manufacturers or USPA and ask for a list of current examiners. All of the above opinions simply supply grist for the legal mill.If you leave the plane without a parachute, you will be fine for the rest of your life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites