pete2005 0 #1 December 27, 2014 Well , there is always something new to learn in this great industry . Most of the DZ has a red card for the low pullers i get fired because i pull too high Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BillyVance 34 #2 December 27, 2014 Not that I've heard of. Go to a different DZ. That one is just asking for a double fatality. Pull too low, and have a malfunction, and you might now have time to deal with it. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites stayhigh 2 #3 December 27, 2014 Name this asshole dz that is scamming consumers and selling 7000 ft tandem as a full altitude jump. Do you guys turn off the Cypress as well?Bernie Sanders for President 2016 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites peek 21 #4 December 28, 2014 pete2005 Well , there is always something new to learn in this great industry . Most of the DZ has a red card for the low pullers i get fired because i pull too high I'm afraid that you are going to have to name names, because otherwise your post is not going to do much. Be brave! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites chemist 0 #5 December 28, 2014 7K for 13K is pretty bold, I've never seen it that bad. Are you based in Australia by chance? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pete2005 0 #6 December 28, 2014 its in Europe .Often the exit was 7 k because of ATC restrictions , sometimes bit more around 8 or 9 k but never more than that . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pete2005 0 #7 December 28, 2014 i can only say that is not a fix DZ but a moving circus . The guy owns few rigs and moves from one place to another . The planes are hired . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Rover 11 #8 December 28, 2014 This prick couldn't fire me as I wouldn't work for him. Name him before his 'operation' kills someone!2 wrongs don't make a right - but 3 lefts do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites douwanto 22 #9 December 31, 2014 Be happy and move on. Your tandem and your responsibility. It happens more than people admit in the states as far as liying about altitude. You are better off jumping legitimate with upstanding DZ. Uncle/GrandPapa Whit Unico Rodriguez # 245 Muff Brother # 2421 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tsalnukt 1 #10 February 2, 2015 you didn't get fired. You got blessed. that is def not someplace anybody should be working. You should say thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Erroll 80 #11 February 4, 2015 pete2005 Well , there is always something new to learn in this great industry . Most of the DZ has a red card for the low pullers i get fired because i pull too high Are the other TMs pulling below 4000 ft? If so, aren't you opening yourself up to liability for not reporting this to the relevant authorities eg. if there is a fatality as a result of a low opening and you knew about the state of affairs? Consider yourself fortunate for getting out now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites potatoman 0 #12 February 4, 2015 Tandem BASE rigs...... Then you can deploy at 1000ft. You have the right to your opinion, and I have the right to tell you how Fu***** stupid it is. Davelepka - "This isn't an x-box, or a Chevy truck forum" Whatever you do, don't listen to ChrisD. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites christelsabine 1 #13 February 4, 2015 *Southern* island, right? Been there, seen it. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pete2005 0 #14 February 5, 2015 yes they pull below 4000 ft but i have no proof for that . How i am supposed to report that ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pete2005 0 #15 February 5, 2015 airgasmo.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnnyMarko 1 #16 February 5, 2015 pete2005its in Europe .Often the exit was 7 k because of ATC restrictions , sometimes bit more around 8 or 9 k but never more than that . On their YouTube videos, there's a couple where the drogue is out, tandem is stable, and TI's alti reads 8K+ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Rover 11 #17 February 5, 2015 airgasmo.com2 wrongs don't make a right - but 3 lefts do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pete2005 0 #18 February 5, 2015 From skyvan they always jump from 13000 ft . The bullshit starts when we jump from cessnas . Also they use to put a lot of slow motion in freefall on the video to cover the missing seconds of freefall Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 2,991 #19 February 5, 2015 Well, nothing wrong with jumping from Cessnas - or even from 7500 feet provided they aren't promising people higher. And nothing wrong with silly slomos. There _is_ a problem with asking TM's to pull too low. (Edited to change to 7500 which is the mfr's minimum.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. 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BillyVance 34 #2 December 27, 2014 Not that I've heard of. Go to a different DZ. That one is just asking for a double fatality. Pull too low, and have a malfunction, and you might now have time to deal with it. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stayhigh 2 #3 December 27, 2014 Name this asshole dz that is scamming consumers and selling 7000 ft tandem as a full altitude jump. Do you guys turn off the Cypress as well?Bernie Sanders for President 2016 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peek 21 #4 December 28, 2014 pete2005 Well , there is always something new to learn in this great industry . Most of the DZ has a red card for the low pullers i get fired because i pull too high I'm afraid that you are going to have to name names, because otherwise your post is not going to do much. Be brave! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chemist 0 #5 December 28, 2014 7K for 13K is pretty bold, I've never seen it that bad. Are you based in Australia by chance? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pete2005 0 #6 December 28, 2014 its in Europe .Often the exit was 7 k because of ATC restrictions , sometimes bit more around 8 or 9 k but never more than that . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pete2005 0 #7 December 28, 2014 i can only say that is not a fix DZ but a moving circus . The guy owns few rigs and moves from one place to another . The planes are hired . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rover 11 #8 December 28, 2014 This prick couldn't fire me as I wouldn't work for him. Name him before his 'operation' kills someone!2 wrongs don't make a right - but 3 lefts do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
douwanto 22 #9 December 31, 2014 Be happy and move on. Your tandem and your responsibility. It happens more than people admit in the states as far as liying about altitude. You are better off jumping legitimate with upstanding DZ. Uncle/GrandPapa Whit Unico Rodriguez # 245 Muff Brother # 2421 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tsalnukt 1 #10 February 2, 2015 you didn't get fired. You got blessed. that is def not someplace anybody should be working. You should say thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Erroll 80 #11 February 4, 2015 pete2005 Well , there is always something new to learn in this great industry . Most of the DZ has a red card for the low pullers i get fired because i pull too high Are the other TMs pulling below 4000 ft? If so, aren't you opening yourself up to liability for not reporting this to the relevant authorities eg. if there is a fatality as a result of a low opening and you knew about the state of affairs? Consider yourself fortunate for getting out now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
potatoman 0 #12 February 4, 2015 Tandem BASE rigs...... Then you can deploy at 1000ft. You have the right to your opinion, and I have the right to tell you how Fu***** stupid it is. Davelepka - "This isn't an x-box, or a Chevy truck forum" Whatever you do, don't listen to ChrisD. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #13 February 4, 2015 *Southern* island, right? Been there, seen it. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pete2005 0 #14 February 5, 2015 yes they pull below 4000 ft but i have no proof for that . How i am supposed to report that ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyMarko 1 #16 February 5, 2015 pete2005its in Europe .Often the exit was 7 k because of ATC restrictions , sometimes bit more around 8 or 9 k but never more than that . On their YouTube videos, there's a couple where the drogue is out, tandem is stable, and TI's alti reads 8K+ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rover 11 #17 February 5, 2015 airgasmo.com2 wrongs don't make a right - but 3 lefts do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pete2005 0 #18 February 5, 2015 From skyvan they always jump from 13000 ft . The bullshit starts when we jump from cessnas . Also they use to put a lot of slow motion in freefall on the video to cover the missing seconds of freefall Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #19 February 5, 2015 Well, nothing wrong with jumping from Cessnas - or even from 7500 feet provided they aren't promising people higher. And nothing wrong with silly slomos. There _is_ a problem with asking TM's to pull too low. (Edited to change to 7500 which is the mfr's minimum.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites