Yung_Seezy 0 #1 August 4, 2015 I know that camera fliers jump with tandems but ive also seen pictures of people doing a group formations with a tandem in there. Are there any rules or requirments to doing this or would i be aloud to with just an A. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #2 August 4, 2015 Most tandem gear makers require 500 jumps to jump with a tandemYesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #3 August 4, 2015 Do a search, here and in the main forum. Done wrong you can kill yourself, the instructor, or the student. It has happened in the past."The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #4 August 4, 2015 Chasing tandems might be "legal" with a D license, instructor rating, recent group freefall experience, etc. but USPA, the manufacturers and most DZOs discourage the practice. Hint: the first (... or second) tandem fatality involved a "chaser" docking so hard that he broke the TI's neck! The second tandem fatality involved a solo canopy trying to build a formation with an open tandem main. He docked so hard that he entangled with the tandem main canopy. The TI released his entangled main, but was unable to activate his reserve. Both fatalities occurred before Cypres was invented. We will learn nothing by repeating those mistakes. Most TIs do not want the additional risk of being chased by unknown jumpers with unknown skills. Finally, few tandem students remember seeing the extra jumper during freefall. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #5 August 4, 2015 riggerrob Most TIs do not want the additional risk of being chased by unknown jumpers with unknown skills. Known jumpers with known skills I have no problem. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jurgencamps 0 #6 August 6, 2015 riggerrobHint: the first (... or second) tandem fatality involved a "chaser" docking so hard that he broke the TI's neck! (If I can find back the old vector 2 tandem manual, with a list of those accidents.) I think that he did not killed the TI, but the passenger, his own mother. But the message is the same. The tandempair is a sitting duck. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #7 August 19, 2015 JohnMitchell *** Most TIs do not want the additional risk of being chased by unknown jumpers with unknown skills. Known jumpers with known skills I have no problem.Correct. I did 2 tandem chases w/ my children at a couple 100 jumps. Docked at 6000' and was outta there. W approval of STA ,TI and vidoeit. Did land out tho watching my daughters' opening on my back. Flipped over and said HOLY SHIT. You went low. Over a river. Landed dead center football field. I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joellercoaster 6 #8 August 19, 2015 akarunway I did 2 tandem chases w/ my children at a couple 100 jumps. Docked at 6000' and was outta there. W approval of STA ,TI and vidoeit. Did land out tho watching my daughters' opening on my back. Flipped over and said HOLY SHIT. You went low. Over a river. Landed dead center football field. Please don't take this the wrong way, but: how do you feel now about your STA and the TI's willingness to let you jump with that tandem, compared to the recommendations (and in some cases requirements) of the manufacturers, which called for a different decision? The recommendation is mostly there to protect the passenger but it's there to protect you too. Glad you had a football field to land in!-- "I'll tell you how all skydivers are judged, . They are judged by the laws of physics." - kkeenan "You jump out, pull the string and either live or die. What's there to be good at? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites