MarkAfrika 0 #1 September 11, 2016 Hello, Wanted to see if anyone out there had some real and meaningful feedback as to why the BN2A Islander aircraft isn't employed more for medium sized tandem (and fun jumper)DZs. Before all the trolls wake up and "AH poo poo" this airplane, I would like someone to explain to me why this wouldn't be a reasonable step between a C182 and a Turbine. Seems to me to be the difference of $100s of thousand of dollars. What am I missing here? Thanks for the feedback Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #2 September 11, 2016 I seem to remember a UK DZ operating one a while back, I'd say the biggest reason Stateside it the relative obscurity of the aircraft here...---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gunpaq 1 #3 September 11, 2016 We seriously considered an Islander for our DZ in the mid 90's. Very feasible then.www.geronimoskydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skytribe 17 #4 September 12, 2016 BN islanders were popular jump aircraft in the UK in the 90's. Both the piston and turbine versions. I believe the issue is there are single engines aircraft that have the same lift capacity but are quicker and cheaper being a turbine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grimmie 186 #5 September 12, 2016 Twin engine=double dollars+pilot issues=stick with a single engine. They are great fun to jump out of. We use the military one in Belize once in a while. However it is a Defender model. A good climber with 6 or 7 on board to about 10,ooo feet, but then it is a very slow boat to 12.5. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #6 September 12, 2016 I believe that's what Skydive Sandwich (Roger Nelson) had in the 80's. Never jumped it. Of course it may have been supported by other activities.I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #7 September 13, 2016 Islanders use to be popular jump-planes in the UK, but I suspect that most are worn-out now. Britten-Norman Islanders are basically twin-engined versions of Cessna U206 with a big cargo door, room for 10 or 12 jumpers and a pair of flat-6 engines. The door is popular with TIs, but a it awkward for AFF. Like 206s, some Islanders have turbo-charged engines and a few have even been converted to turbo-props. Lower maintenance and insurance costs - compared to other light twins - because they have fixed undercarriage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #8 September 18, 2016 I jumped out of Roger Nelson's Islander in 1985 at Sandwich IL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpwally 0 #9 September 19, 2016 I've got about a 100 jumps out of it,,it was the perfect weekday plane cuz just about everyone one hanging around could get on every load,,,slow but it did the trick...smile, be nice, enjoy life FB # - 1083 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faicon9493 141 #10 September 20, 2016 diablopilotI seem to remember a UK DZ operating one a while back, I'd say the biggest reason Stateside it the relative obscurity of the aircraft here... So did I. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dzswoop717 5 #11 September 26, 2016 I have looked into the Islander in the past for jump operations. I learned that the airframe has some time and cycle components that need to be replaced at certain intervals and you want the 300 hp normally asperated engines, Lycoming IO-540's. Besides that they will do a good job of hauling tandems. When I was looking at them in the 80's and 90's, they weren't priced much lower than a Porter or King Air and you could buy 2 or 3 Twin Bo's, Queen Airs, or Beech 18's for the price of an Islander. Although I think it is a much better airplane, the purchase price usually wins when there is a small profit margin. Although I am not in the skydiving business any longer, I still would like to have an Islander for trips with family and friends and fun jumping at my short private strip. They have better stol performance than the Beech family of piston twins. A better choice would be Van Prey's PT6-20 Cessna 206, I think it is the perfect airplane to transistion a 2 Cessna DZ to it's first turbine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites