samlee 0 #26 November 30, 2012 Ok so some places also do it a little differently where you must sign next to your OWN name to say that someone else has checked you. This allows those that really arent bothered about a check to just sign for themselves, but encourages everyone else to get a proper check. The DZ is then covered showing that they do what they can to make sure everyone is checked and to keep a record of it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorbie 0 #27 December 1, 2012 QuoteYou should make it a rule that every jumper on the load should be checked by someone, who then puts their initials next to the jumper's name on the manifest. I know that is a crazy idea and would literally be infringing on freedoms though. That's insane. It exposes the signator to legal liability and implies a responsibility which does not and should not exist. After an incident the specifics of gear and events are often uncertain and open to speculation. People have been sued for selling a piece of paper used to record reserve I&R found in a bounce rig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorbie 0 #28 December 1, 2012 QuoteThis is one thing I cannot understand, how can a 30s gear check infringe on freedoms? Surely it is better for the DZ to ensure their jumpers are correctly geared up - any accident that can be caused is surely more hassle than printing a copy of manifest and ensuring jumpers initial next to their own name when been checked. There's a difference between giving inspections and signing a document certifying the correct rigging of someone else's gear each load. However the existence of any kind of formal check rule implies responsibility and threatens to financially ruin any jumper should someone go in reagrdless of fault. It sucks but that's the reality of the legal system that has arisen in the USA and elsewhere. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shredex 0 #29 December 1, 2012 And make sure the pilot is cocked...if green isn't in the window you need fix something. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dqpacker 7 #30 December 1, 2012 QuoteAnd make sure the pilot is cocked...if green isn't in the window you need fix something. most pilots are cocked up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimjumper 25 #31 December 1, 2012 You won't find a window or green on my pilot chute or bridle since I jump a bungee pilot chute. Make sure you know someone else's gear as well as your own before doing gear checks for someone else! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fcajump 164 #32 December 3, 2012 QuoteYou won't find a window or green on my pilot chute or bridle since I jump a bungee pilot chute. Make sure you know someone else's gear as well as your own before doing gear checks for someone else! Not all kill-line style PC bridles have windows. Was surprised when my new Racer arrived without one. JWAlways remember that some clouds are harder than others... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites