ArizonaStone 0 #1 November 3, 2012 Hey guys! Maybe this is the wrong forum to post this, but it seemed to be the most fitting. I jump at a fairly large dropzone that has a lot of military training going on throughout the year. In the time I have been jumping there, I have heard of a few incidents and witnessed a few as well. My question is, why do I see and hear about these things, yet I never see them reported here or in Parachutist? Can anyone offer some insight on why this is so?"Believe none of what you hear and only half of what you see." -Benjamin Franklin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DocPop 1 #2 November 3, 2012 Because reporting in the US is not compulsory and if an incident is reported here all sorts of clueless crap and finger-pointing is posted which acts as a disincentive for voluntary reporting. Good enough reason?"The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ArizonaStone 0 #3 November 3, 2012 I suppose, but does Parachutist share an equally tarnished reputation for misinformation?"Believe none of what you hear and only half of what you see." -Benjamin Franklin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #4 November 3, 2012 No not the mag.... but the BOD members will take your reports and hand them over the to the lawyers who are suing a GM dz over a death.you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ArizonaStone 0 #5 November 3, 2012 Call me ignorant, but why would the BOD purposely destroy the sport that it regulates by doing such a thing?"Believe none of what you hear and only half of what you see." -Benjamin Franklin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #6 November 3, 2012 IDK maybe you should ask the former regional director why he did that..... Oh and BTW.... Quoteregulates USPA don't regulate shit, the FAA is who regulates skydiving.you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutellaontoast 0 #7 November 3, 2012 I think he was asking for details about what you're taling about re: USPA suing a DZ. If not, that I am now asking you to elaborate.Don't let the fact that I sound like I think that I know what I'm talking about fool you. I know that I don't know what I'm talking about Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CarpeDiem3 0 #8 November 3, 2012 The military does their own very thorough accident investigations, and do not answser to dropzone.com or USPA. You can send the military branch a freedom of information act request to get a copy of their investigations. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #9 November 3, 2012 QuoteI think he was asking for details about what you're taling about re: USPA suing a DZ. If not, that I am now asking you to elaborate. Wrong forum to be getting into politics, IMO.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ArizonaStone 0 #10 November 3, 2012 I had no idea that there were these issues with the BOD. Does the military do reports on non-military incidents as a practice or just in certain circumstances like when they're involved in studies such as the Dual Square Report? Also, Pops, this wasn't meant to be a political discussion, just an inquiry into why there appears to be such a fair amount of reporting from some DZs and little, if any, from others. P.S. When I said "regulates", I mean to the extent that the BSRs are regulation. Not necessarily in the FAR sense of the word."Believe none of what you hear and only half of what you see." -Benjamin Franklin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GLIDEANGLE 1 #11 November 3, 2012 Same question recently asked and answered: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4348536#4348536The choices we make have consequences, for us & for others! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CarpeDiem3 0 #12 November 3, 2012 QuoteDoes the military do reports on non-military incidents as a practice No. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,990 #13 November 4, 2012 >Call me ignorant, but why would the BOD purposely destroy the sport that it >regulates by doing such a thing? They don't, but it makes a great story. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites