larry 0 #1 September 5, 2001 Pisa COE-D ZP 260 all light blue 200 jumps DOM 9-’92If anyone has any information on what model this is or better yet a link to where I could find information about it, I would greatly appreciate it. I searched the web but found nothing on this model of Pisa. I have 30 jumps and am looking to buy gear. I weigh 230 with no gear. I’m worried it may be too advanced for my skill level.Thanks for any help,-Larry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #2 September 5, 2001 If I remember my gear.... thats a ZP canopy that PISA made to compete with the Sabre and the Pro Series. Its a rectangular canopy that has 9 cells. It will proform like a Manta or smilar large ZP canopy. If the canopy is in good condition and the lines not need replaced then it should be a good canopy for another 1000 jumps with regular maintence. This was made with the South African ZP that is used on Triathlons, Hornets and a few other canopies. I might be totally off on this one but that what I seem to remember about this canopy in my rigging books.Always ask your JM's first about any gear you plan on jumping. Also see if you can get Riggerrob to get you more specific info on the canopy. He's more into gear then I am.Do I HAVE to do another raft dive??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skybytch 273 #3 September 5, 2001 The COE-D is PISA's copy of the PD F111 nine cells. It is not zp fabric... at least the one I jumped and packed wasn't. pull and flare,lisa---Not one shred of evidence supports the notion that life is serious Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites riggerrob 643 #4 September 5, 2001 Skybytch is correct on this one.Coe-D canopies were designed by Bill Coe - of Performance Designs fame - and built under license by Parachute Industries of South Africa.Coe-D canopies have 9 cells, and I believe they were built of F-111 fabric.With only 200 jumps the lines should still be in good shape, but ask your local rigger to inspect it before any money changes hands.This class of canopy would be a good choice for some one with your weight and experience. You will probably be bored with it by this time next year, but at least your bones will be intact by this time next year.Again, ask the advice of local instructors who have watched your landings.Blue skies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites larry 0 #5 September 5, 2001 I appreciate the advice. I am in contact with my local Instructor as far as what I should be jumping. He has not heard of it before either, and is also looking for some specs. If it is an F-111 I wont get it, I’m looking for a 260 ZP. Have not seen this particular chute yet, but the rigger I'm buying it from has it advertised as ZP....Thanks again.-Larry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites prost 0 #6 September 5, 2001 I have only seen one first hand and it was ZP top skin and F-111 bottom skin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites larry 0 #7 September 5, 2001 zp-top and f-111 bottom would not be badthat is the same as the Navigator I jump nowI'm going to email the seller one more time for clarification-Larry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites prost 0 #8 September 5, 2001 Who is the seller? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites prost 0 #9 September 5, 2001 It could be the one I have seen. Wouldn't that be funny. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites larry 0 #10 September 5, 2001 Paul, cheif rigger at Skydive Acadianahttp://www.skydiveacadiana.com/equipment.htmlIt's possible, they sound rare...-Larry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites prost 0 #11 September 5, 2001 That is the main I have seen. Someone at my dropzone was looking at the main to go in his second rig but decided he wanted something smaller. The canopy seemed to be in real good shape and did not have that many jumps on it. Paul is jumping at my dropzone right now (Gold Coast Skydivers in Moss Point, Ms). I can get some more info for you this weekend from the guy who jumped it and from Paul. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites larry 0 #12 September 6, 2001 Thanks prost, that would be great! I think I’m going to go ahead and order it along with some other stuff today. It sounds like a good first chute at a nice used price.-Larry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites larry 0 #13 September 7, 2001 FYI: If anyone is curious, got a hold of someone from PISA, was very helpfull. Sound like everyone in this thread had the right information. He writes:Hi Larry,You've come to the right place. The COE-D parachutes are ones we manufactured some years ago under licence from Bill Coe of Performance Designs.We sold them in Europe , not in the USA for a number of years but have since stopped production. The suggested all up exit weight is 260 lbs.Yes , your COE-D could be any combination actually - TOTAL ZP ; Hybrid mix or total F-111.The 1992 canopy is getting passed our record keeping of about 7 years. If you give me the serial number , I "may" be able to give you what was incorporated into the design.No the COE-D design is not a Sabre which came out in 1987 or so , but rather Pre-Sabre or the original PD 9 cell.And certainly you can pro pack the canopy. As you may be aware, its a pretty straight forward 9 cell so there are no tricks or special ways to pack it.Anything else you'd like to know ?BLUE SKIESNEDP.I.S.A.-Larry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Kris 0 #14 September 7, 2001 Quote FYI: If anyone is curious, got a hold of someone from PISA, was very helpfull. Sound like everyone in this thread had the right information. He writes: Ned is "The Man"!!! A week after I sent off my Heatwave order I realized that I hated the color I chose for the ribs on my new canopy. I sent him an e-mail and he got it changed right away and quickly answered some other questions I had. Excellent customer service!Kris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Argos 0 #15 December 24, 2005 Hello My name is António, i'm from Portugal and am looking for info about a main canopy from 1990, the COE-D 210sqf. A fellow told me it was build by PISA but it has a label that was design by Performance Designs. Please email me to a.m.cravo@sapo.pt Merry Christmas Regards, António Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites koppel 4 #16 December 24, 2005 one of our students got a Coe-D 190 ZP for his first canopy. I test jumped it for him and found for a canopy of that age, early 90's and with at least several hunderd jumps on it it flew well and had a really impressive flare. Great Canopy for a Newbie with Instructor approvalI like my canopy... ...it lets me down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites meatbomb 0 #17 January 4, 2006 Antonio, The Coe-d is a perfectly serviceable South African copy of a PD Sabre. 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skybytch 273 #3 September 5, 2001 The COE-D is PISA's copy of the PD F111 nine cells. It is not zp fabric... at least the one I jumped and packed wasn't. pull and flare,lisa---Not one shred of evidence supports the notion that life is serious Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #4 September 5, 2001 Skybytch is correct on this one.Coe-D canopies were designed by Bill Coe - of Performance Designs fame - and built under license by Parachute Industries of South Africa.Coe-D canopies have 9 cells, and I believe they were built of F-111 fabric.With only 200 jumps the lines should still be in good shape, but ask your local rigger to inspect it before any money changes hands.This class of canopy would be a good choice for some one with your weight and experience. You will probably be bored with it by this time next year, but at least your bones will be intact by this time next year.Again, ask the advice of local instructors who have watched your landings.Blue skies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
larry 0 #5 September 5, 2001 I appreciate the advice. I am in contact with my local Instructor as far as what I should be jumping. He has not heard of it before either, and is also looking for some specs. If it is an F-111 I wont get it, I’m looking for a 260 ZP. Have not seen this particular chute yet, but the rigger I'm buying it from has it advertised as ZP....Thanks again.-Larry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prost 0 #6 September 5, 2001 I have only seen one first hand and it was ZP top skin and F-111 bottom skin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
larry 0 #7 September 5, 2001 zp-top and f-111 bottom would not be badthat is the same as the Navigator I jump nowI'm going to email the seller one more time for clarification-Larry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prost 0 #8 September 5, 2001 Who is the seller? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prost 0 #9 September 5, 2001 It could be the one I have seen. Wouldn't that be funny. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
larry 0 #10 September 5, 2001 Paul, cheif rigger at Skydive Acadianahttp://www.skydiveacadiana.com/equipment.htmlIt's possible, they sound rare...-Larry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prost 0 #11 September 5, 2001 That is the main I have seen. Someone at my dropzone was looking at the main to go in his second rig but decided he wanted something smaller. The canopy seemed to be in real good shape and did not have that many jumps on it. Paul is jumping at my dropzone right now (Gold Coast Skydivers in Moss Point, Ms). I can get some more info for you this weekend from the guy who jumped it and from Paul. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
larry 0 #12 September 6, 2001 Thanks prost, that would be great! I think I’m going to go ahead and order it along with some other stuff today. It sounds like a good first chute at a nice used price.-Larry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
larry 0 #13 September 7, 2001 FYI: If anyone is curious, got a hold of someone from PISA, was very helpfull. Sound like everyone in this thread had the right information. He writes:Hi Larry,You've come to the right place. The COE-D parachutes are ones we manufactured some years ago under licence from Bill Coe of Performance Designs.We sold them in Europe , not in the USA for a number of years but have since stopped production. The suggested all up exit weight is 260 lbs.Yes , your COE-D could be any combination actually - TOTAL ZP ; Hybrid mix or total F-111.The 1992 canopy is getting passed our record keeping of about 7 years. If you give me the serial number , I "may" be able to give you what was incorporated into the design.No the COE-D design is not a Sabre which came out in 1987 or so , but rather Pre-Sabre or the original PD 9 cell.And certainly you can pro pack the canopy. As you may be aware, its a pretty straight forward 9 cell so there are no tricks or special ways to pack it.Anything else you'd like to know ?BLUE SKIESNEDP.I.S.A.-Larry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kris 0 #14 September 7, 2001 Quote FYI: If anyone is curious, got a hold of someone from PISA, was very helpfull. Sound like everyone in this thread had the right information. He writes: Ned is "The Man"!!! A week after I sent off my Heatwave order I realized that I hated the color I chose for the ribs on my new canopy. I sent him an e-mail and he got it changed right away and quickly answered some other questions I had. Excellent customer service!Kris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Argos 0 #15 December 24, 2005 Hello My name is António, i'm from Portugal and am looking for info about a main canopy from 1990, the COE-D 210sqf. A fellow told me it was build by PISA but it has a label that was design by Performance Designs. Please email me to a.m.cravo@sapo.pt Merry Christmas Regards, António Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
koppel 4 #16 December 24, 2005 one of our students got a Coe-D 190 ZP for his first canopy. I test jumped it for him and found for a canopy of that age, early 90's and with at least several hunderd jumps on it it flew well and had a really impressive flare. Great Canopy for a Newbie with Instructor approvalI like my canopy... ...it lets me down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meatbomb 0 #17 January 4, 2006 Antonio, The Coe-d is a perfectly serviceable South African copy of a PD Sabre. There used to be one on our DZ, and there were no complaints.--- Swoopert, CS-Aiiiiiii! Piccies Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites