volo 0 #1 September 17, 2001 What are YOUR thoughts on Icarus pumping out a number of various canopies on the market in such a short amount of time?Are they safe and high quality, with sufficient test jumps made on them before putting them out on the market? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mountainman 0 #2 September 17, 2001 You can check out their website and read some about what they do to test them and stuff. There is some interesting reading there.--------------Baby pictures... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prost 0 #3 September 17, 2001 Hmm First ever post and it is something like this. I wonder who Volo really is. Troll? ...but for whom? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymedic 0 #4 September 17, 2001 good point....Does seem like a trolls question....MarcBecause I fly, I envy no man on earth Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird 0 #5 September 17, 2001 this company is a safe company as are their canopies. i fly a crossfire and am getting ready to downsize, and thats right i will get another crossfire. people are getting scared because of ignorant speculation and rumors. this happens with everything, even the recent events in New York. the media jumped to conclusions many times, which proved to false. that is again what we are seeing here. please read the post on the crossfire also in this gear and rigging forum and you will get an idea of this untrue hype. thanksjaybird Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnny1488 1 #6 September 18, 2001 This is definetly some stunt from a canopy manufacturer {cough cough P.A. cough} I dont think PD would pull such a stunt. I have heard only good things about Icarus and am trying to get my hands on a Safire to test fly one before I buy. PShe doesnt even know where he's from in florida. hmmm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #7 September 18, 2001 What type of stunt do you think they might be pulling? I, as someone who has been around all the current manufacturing reps on the swoop circuit this year, can tell you that this isn't the first time I have heard of problems with both Icarus and P.A. Both for very different reasons, but troubles nonetheless. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aviatrr 0 #8 September 18, 2001 Quote What are YOUR thoughts on Icarus pumping out a number of various canopies on the market in such a short amount of time? My first thought - after reading your profile - is that I can't give any credibility to somebody on issues pertaining to gear if they don't even know what size reserve they have..Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Geoff 0 #9 September 18, 2001 Quote pumping out ...... in such a short amount of time Yor choice of words suggests that you're more interested in influencing opinions than hearing them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #10 September 19, 2001 Volo,What do you mean by "pumping out such a large number of canopies in such a short period of time."?At the 1993 PIA Symposium, I was introduced to a parachute designer from New Zealand. His name was Gyro and he was starting to develop a reputation in his homeland as a builder of high performance canopies.Since 1993, Gyro and the Icarus marketing department have introduced Icarus Extreme VX, Extreme FX, Omega, Safire, Crossfire, tandem and student canopy lines.For comparison, during the same time period, Performance Designs has introduced the Stiletto, Spectre, Silhouette, Velocity, Vengeance, Navigator student canopy and a couple of tandem mains.What is the difference? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
volo 0 #11 September 20, 2001 Sorry if that question sounded a bit more on the negative side, but that wasn't my intention. I'm just curious to know other views and opinions about the issue. Oh, my name is Jason Jerusalem and I'm a freeflyer in Florida, since you asked. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymedic 0 #12 September 23, 2001 I think ya might have wanted to put who you were out in front with your question. but welcome to the neighborhood.MarcBecause I fly, I envy no man on earth Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RemiAndKaren 0 #13 September 23, 2001 i think it is good to have more competition in the gear market.... remember when all there really was was PD? (yea... some real old timer will remember before that)... That being said, all I ever had for main has been PD (except for a 75 jump excursion into Aerodyne Land)... there is something to be said about a long standing trusted nameRemiMuff 914 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymedic 0 #14 September 23, 2001 Plus PD's customer service ROCKS...MarcBecause I fly, I envy no man on earth Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aviatrr 0 #15 September 24, 2001 Quote Plus PD's customer service ROCKS... What exactly are you basing that on? I agree - they make good canopies...but ever tried to get a line set from 'em? Sometimes it takes 3 days, sometimes 6 weeks.. And don't get me started on their "used demo canopy" sales program..Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymedic 0 #16 September 24, 2001 No, actualy I was talking about there demo program. got to jump a sabre 210 and a spectre 210 for 40 bucks...cant go wrong there....and I had em for two weeks....MarcBecause I fly, I envy no man on earth Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #17 September 24, 2001 I snagged a Cobalt 150 shiped overnight to my work for 30 busks for 2 full weeks. The wait was 3 weeks from faxing the form to Atair. PD's list for a Vengence or Saber2 is over 6 weeks in some case up to 8 if you want a popular size.... like the 135 or 150 I wanted. So its all relitive......Be safe, be smooth, be fast..... and most importantly.... be phree Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skymedic 0 #18 September 24, 2001 I just walked into PD's factory said I wanted to demo a Sabre2 and a Spectre both 210's and they said sure...here they are...gave them my 40 bucks(20 bucks a peice) and jumpe the hell out of em....MarcBecause I fly, I envy no man on earth Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites RemiAndKaren 0 #19 September 24, 2001 QuotePlus PD's customer service ROCKS... --------------------------------------------------------------------------------What exactly are you basing that on? We've had really good experience with their CS too...We bough a used Sabre 135 a few years back with only a handfull of jumps on it (10 to 20, cant remember now)but after a couple of months, we notice the centre cell top skin was looking "weird", as if it was aging very quickly. Also, the zp'ness of that pannel was going fast ( I could suck air through it).We send it back to PD, and even if it was a 2 or 3 year old canopy, they exchanged it for a new one for a nominal charge (I think about $100)Cant argue with that....RemiMuff 914 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites weid14 0 #20 September 24, 2001 those wouldn't be on the most popular size list, that's why... I tried to get a 150 Stilletto - they said 6 weeks, they finally called be in Novemeber (I called them in July), by then my new canopy had come in... your milage may vary. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mountainman 0 #21 September 24, 2001 Quoteand jumpe the hell out of emHey man! Did you do this recently?? Does this mean you have more jumps than me now?? --------------Richmond Boogie pics... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DBTECH 0 #22 September 24, 2001 Remi saidI think it is good to have more competition in the gear market.... remember when all there really was PD? (yea... some real old timer will remember before that)... ParaFlite was the only one on the block before PD- and I'm not a "real" old timer!Dave Brownell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
skymedic 0 #18 September 24, 2001 I just walked into PD's factory said I wanted to demo a Sabre2 and a Spectre both 210's and they said sure...here they are...gave them my 40 bucks(20 bucks a peice) and jumpe the hell out of em....MarcBecause I fly, I envy no man on earth Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RemiAndKaren 0 #19 September 24, 2001 QuotePlus PD's customer service ROCKS... --------------------------------------------------------------------------------What exactly are you basing that on? We've had really good experience with their CS too...We bough a used Sabre 135 a few years back with only a handfull of jumps on it (10 to 20, cant remember now)but after a couple of months, we notice the centre cell top skin was looking "weird", as if it was aging very quickly. Also, the zp'ness of that pannel was going fast ( I could suck air through it).We send it back to PD, and even if it was a 2 or 3 year old canopy, they exchanged it for a new one for a nominal charge (I think about $100)Cant argue with that....RemiMuff 914 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weid14 0 #20 September 24, 2001 those wouldn't be on the most popular size list, that's why... I tried to get a 150 Stilletto - they said 6 weeks, they finally called be in Novemeber (I called them in July), by then my new canopy had come in... your milage may vary. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mountainman 0 #21 September 24, 2001 Quoteand jumpe the hell out of emHey man! Did you do this recently?? Does this mean you have more jumps than me now?? --------------Richmond Boogie pics... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DBTECH 0 #22 September 24, 2001 Remi saidI think it is good to have more competition in the gear market.... remember when all there really was PD? (yea... some real old timer will remember before that)... ParaFlite was the only one on the block before PD- and I'm not a "real" old timer!Dave Brownell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
