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No i'm pointing out that it's bullshit for people with thousands of jumps to do so.
Just because of who the article claims to qoute. And the experience level of the person who says it's bs.
Just because of who the article claims to qoute. And the experience level of the person who says it's bs.
Like i said think for your self and make up your own mind.
I was taught not to cut away below 1000 feet. And will stick with that.
I've watched two experienced jumpers die so far in emergencies that i believe to have been salvagble.
One cut away a mal and never pulled his reserve.
The other made a downwind hook turn in 20 plus mph winds to avaoid a tree landing. (below 200 feet)
I do realize that it is possible to cut away and survive lower then 1000 feet.
So as i said i wont argue that point. But i do believe she was out of time.
And got extreamly lucky. But also am sure her skill level made a world of difference!
Even so by going that low she played the odds as there was no quarantee she would cut away and get a reserve out in time.
Just like deploying a reserve while still with a malfunction is playing the odds.
But at my skill level. I want to try and remember to pull silver at 1000 if i'm still falling like that?
Not to get more material out as previously asked. But to (hopefully) get an open canopy above my head.
And i realize that might not happen. But i also realize you might not clear the malfunction if that's all you try and do.
I was taught not to cut away below 1000 feet. And will stick with that.
I've watched two experienced jumpers die so far in emergencies that i believe to have been salvagble.
One cut away a mal and never pulled his reserve.
The other made a downwind hook turn in 20 plus mph winds to avaoid a tree landing. (below 200 feet)
I do realize that it is possible to cut away and survive lower then 1000 feet.
So as i said i wont argue that point. But i do believe she was out of time.
And got extreamly lucky. But also am sure her skill level made a world of difference!
Even so by going that low she played the odds as there was no quarantee she would cut away and get a reserve out in time.
Just like deploying a reserve while still with a malfunction is playing the odds.
But at my skill level. I want to try and remember to pull silver at 1000 if i'm still falling like that?
Not to get more material out as previously asked. But to (hopefully) get an open canopy above my head.
And i realize that might not happen. But i also realize you might not clear the malfunction if that's all you try and do.
By the way i did see your post about EPs for wraps/entanglements.
But it did not state what they were. And am honestly curiouse as to when you would chop a (good) canopy?
Meaning there are no rips or tears. Nothing entangled with it etc.
I can imagine doind so if a kamikize pilot is trying to fly his aircraft into you.
Or if you were in a severe updraft like the ballon pilot in Georgia who got sucked way up and died.
But seriously can not think of any other time to just chop a good canopy?
This is not a bash but honest curiosity. As you are right.
That statement was a generalzation. Based on common skydiving malfunctions though.
But it did not state what they were. And am honestly curiouse as to when you would chop a (good) canopy?
Meaning there are no rips or tears. Nothing entangled with it etc.
I can imagine doind so if a kamikize pilot is trying to fly his aircraft into you.
Or if you were in a severe updraft like the ballon pilot in Georgia who got sucked way up and died.
But seriously can not think of any other time to just chop a good canopy?
This is not a bash but honest curiosity. As you are right.
That statement was a generalzation. Based on common skydiving malfunctions though.
You do know only crazy people keep talking to themselves right?
kallend 2,026
QuoteNo i'm pointing out that it's bullshit for people with thousands of jumps to do so.
Just because of who the article claims to qoute. And the experience level of the person who says it's bs.
IMO you are simply making yourself look foolish.
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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
Sorry popsjumper.
I forgot to answer your question as to what she had out.
And all i can make there is an educated guess based on what i saw.
As i was to for away to really make out detail. But i did see another cut away canopy in her general proximaty. But at a higher alltitude.
Which you can hear people discussing in the video. So i can only assume that was his as she still had a canopy above her.
Which is why the she had a good canopy above her statement confused me.
Especially after i was told the writer was a jumper with thousands of jumps.
And that it was an accurate and factual story. And she also appeared to be struggeleling.
So i can only guess that the collision must have caused her canopy to wrap up or entangle with itself somehow.
With perhaps lines snagged on her somewhere?
Sorry if the terminolagy is wrong! But the point is it was a big ball of shit.
I know eyewitness acounts are often wrong. And i don't have a lot of jump experience.
But i do have experience in other stress enviroments. And am positive of what i saw.
I forgot to answer your question as to what she had out.
And all i can make there is an educated guess based on what i saw.
As i was to for away to really make out detail. But i did see another cut away canopy in her general proximaty. But at a higher alltitude.
Which you can hear people discussing in the video. So i can only assume that was his as she still had a canopy above her.
Which is why the she had a good canopy above her statement confused me.
Especially after i was told the writer was a jumper with thousands of jumps.
And that it was an accurate and factual story. And she also appeared to be struggeleling.
So i can only guess that the collision must have caused her canopy to wrap up or entangle with itself somehow.
With perhaps lines snagged on her somewhere?
Sorry if the terminolagy is wrong! But the point is it was a big ball of shit.
I know eyewitness acounts are often wrong. And i don't have a lot of jump experience.
But i do have experience in other stress enviroments. And am positive of what i saw.
normiss 798
I think kallend has it here....
We generally see the newspapers and tv stations report something along "plummeted to their death" or "parachute failed to open".
I can't remember a single news account getting an incident reported anywhere near accurate in details.
Ever.
Just accept the fact that reporters are wuffos.
With deadlines to meet, stories to sell.
We generally see the newspapers and tv stations report something along "plummeted to their death" or "parachute failed to open".
I can't remember a single news account getting an incident reported anywhere near accurate in details.
Ever.
Just accept the fact that reporters are wuffos.
With deadlines to meet, stories to sell.
Roflmao!
If your idea of talking to yourself is responding to statements or questions of others. Then i'm nuts!
If your idea of talking to yourself is responding to statements or questions of others. Then i'm nuts!
Which is not what i saw. But as i said i did not see the collision.
Just her falling straight down with nothing but crap above her.
So i asked if what i saw streamering above her may have been his canopy after she cut away?
And then asked why would you chop a good canopy if wrapped?
And stated that did not make any sense. At which point i was told that the writer was a jumper with 30 plus years.
And thousands of jumps. And that the article was accurate and factual.
Which the video clearly shows it wasn't. But what bothered me was comments such as.
I'll believe what Dan says over a novice etc. Based on nothing more then a newspaper article.
And there were two other eyewitnesses who reported seeing exactly what i did as well.
But the important part is that people with thousands of jumps seemed to just except the article as fact.
And make statements such as. I'll believe what Dan says over a novice.
I hope no newby reads that and believes it's true. And that if a newspaper article claims to qoute him.
But a novice disputes the article. Then the article must be correct.
Becasue people with thousands of jumps said so. I might not be an expert.
But i know hero worship when i see it. And how dangerious it is.
And have gotten one pm from another eyewitness agreeing with my assecment.
Who does not want to post and take the public bashing.
And that's sad!
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