Dan 0 #1 November 21, 2001 Hello people. Finally decided its time to buy some new kit! So far all reports concerning PdeF's Ninja are good, I think I may go for one but wondered if any of you out there have any experience with them? cheers Dan. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BPO 0 #2 November 21, 2001 Hey Dan,Have you checked out the gear-section?see: http://www.dropzone.com/gear/Detailed/265.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RemiAndKaren 0 #3 November 21, 2001 How much are they? from all I've read, heard, and talked about with reps at Espace, it was not tuned as an "extreme machine" the same way the velocity and FX are... I guess if they're not as expensive it makes sense, but otherwise.....Let us know!RemiMuff 914 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roq 0 #4 November 21, 2001 When I tried Ninja (94), for besides the opinions that I wrote, I was with the idea that Ninja is an interesting project in the technician aspect, but in flight, opennings, pack and price didn't convince me. For less money and with best characteristic we have other canopies, in expecial the Cobalt (and Impulse) that is now, only, The best Canopie HP of the market!!!RS Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kirils 1 #5 November 21, 2001 A of mine in South Africa bought a Ninga. He really loves it. It's fast, with snappy turns and a great flare. BUT... it not the bomb the FX or the Xaos-21 an overloaded Cobalt are. It's a great chute for HP wannabees. Skydiving is not a static excercise with discrete predictability... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ramon 0 #6 November 22, 2001 My buddy just demoed a Cobalt at 1.4 and he had no problems with it as a first eliptical. I jumped it after and thought it was pretty tame (1.67).He jumped my vengeance too, but that was not for him, too divey and...basically not as easy to land. But he did like the vengeance till he jumped the Cobalt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil 0 #7 November 26, 2001 if you're in Europe, why don't you check out the Nitro from Germany. It's a crazy canopy that has the stuff for addiction.Blue skiesPhil Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Watcher 0 #8 November 27, 2001 Its a very amazing canopy. Makes me want to say, "Fuck freefall, nothing but hop n pops" , I seriously consider it everytime i go up, its that good.Watcher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flyfreak 0 #9 November 27, 2001 I have jumped a ninja 102 at a 1,72 wing loading it flyes and opens great I mean great no dancing openings like velocity or slamers like bt pro , but I prefer the velocity not for the openings . I have two friend that have 2,1 and 2,3 wing loadinds on the ninja and they behave great they are not so ground houngry , I think they are less groung houngry than a velocity at less wing loading , but fly really fast very docile . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jacobwaerness 0 #10 November 30, 2001 Hi!I have just ordered a Ninja 94. I've tried both the 102 and the 94. My wingload on the 94 is 2.0. Nice openings, very fast diving turns and relatively easy to land. Compared to FX/Velocity it is trimmed much flatter. This results in a shorter recovery arch, and it requires more skill to achieve the same high approach speeds. However, on a high wingload the arch will still be big enough to make your final turn in a safe altitude from the ground. Just because it requires a different technique, doesn't make it a bad canopy. It will also fly much longer with a flatter trim (nice with a bad spot). The flat trim also make it swoop better with equal speed, because you don't need to brake as much (thus distorting the shape of the airfoil) to get a horizontal path prior to touchdown.Some some of the repliers to your mail claims that it packs very large. Yes, it's fact that crossbraced canopies packs bigger than conventional ones, but the Ninja packs smaller than both FX/Velocity (check factory numbers). The Ninja has F111 type fabric ribs which decreases the pack volume/ease. My opinion is that the Ninja is a different canopy built more for flying. It's easy and fun to land, cost a lot less than FX/Velocity. But it's French: A bit different, but that doesn't make it bad. Jacob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites