obelixtim 150 #101 August 25, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuote If you 100% trust the person above you (who should not be there in the first place). You always have the option of not jumping with people you don't trust. An option I exercise all the time. Maybe its the option theyare exercising all the time.....My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DocPop 1 #102 August 25, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote If you 100% trust the person above you (who should not be there in the first place). You always have the option of not jumping with people you don't trust. An option I exercise all the time. Maybe its the option theyare exercising all the time..... How? By not coming on my Hop & Pops? Why are you trying to make me out to be a douchebag? You don't even jump any more."The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
obelixtim 150 #103 August 25, 2012 QuoteHow? By not coming on my Hop & Pops? Why are you trying to make me out to be a douchebag? Where did I say that?. QuoteYou don't even jump any more. Now, where did you get that from?My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #104 August 26, 2012 QuoteWhy are you trying to make me out to be a douchebag? Chill out...he wasn't referring to you. QuoteYou don't even jump any more. And how would that have anything to do with the discussion? SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #105 August 26, 2012 QuoteYou don't even jump any more. What is your point with that one? Truth be told, you did state that you only do hop n pops, so I would think the opinion of a guy with 1000's of freefall jumps who might not jump anymore would be far more valuable and relevant than the opinion of a jumper with a couple hundred jumps who only does hop n pops. If you don't jump with anyone, or even track at all, who cares what you think about break-off protocols after bigger group skydives? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,990 #106 August 26, 2012 >It seems to me that barrel rolling is one of many tools we have at our disposal. There >are cases where it may not be appropriate. But to make some of the blanket >statements for or against it that I have read in this thread seem equally foolish. Agreed. There are cases where it can be done safely - as long as it is planned for. To me it's like the 45 degree rule. There's nothing unsafe about looking out at a 45 degree angle from the plane and then jumping - PROVIDED you leave enough time between yourself and the previous group. The time it does become a problem is when you assume that the 45 degree thing is all you need to do to get safe separation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
