cameramonkey 0 #1 March 5, 2002 Ok, after listening to my riggers bitch and moan (and more importantly, charge me more) I am starting to look towards replacing my racer. I am looking for a decent rig with the following constraints:1: comfy 2: rigger freindly3: reasonably pricedAny inputs? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nws01 0 #2 March 5, 2002 One word... Wings. Call my friend Roy Torgierson at 1.877.Top.Rigs. He is the largest distributor of Wings Containers in the world. Great prices and great service. He also has several highly rated canopies in stock as well as gear. Nathan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #3 March 5, 2002 Infinity. Meets all your requirements and the delivery time rocks.pull and flare,lisa---Mondays suck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cameramonkey 0 #4 March 5, 2002 What about stipulation 2? I have heard the wings containers are almost as bad, if not as bad as Racers to pack... I tried one of those on, but as I was adjusting it was told its not gonna do me any better in that dept than the racer I currently own. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #5 March 5, 2002 The Wings packs nearly the same as a Javelin. If yor rigger can't pack a Javelin you need to look for a new rigger. The split freebag is a riggers dream IMHO. It makes bagging the canopy SO much easier then the complete molar bags everyone else uses. 2 pin containters and those with exposed pop tops are WAY harder to pack and look nice IMHO. Anyone can pack them, but making it look nice is the trick. Not many people can pack them, I refuse to learn on them because I can't make it look nice enough for my liking. I've tried the same rig like 5 times and always have to call my teacher over to make it look good.Cause I don't wanna come back down from this cloud... ~ Bush Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nws01 0 #6 March 5, 2002 Do a search on this site about Wings. See what the other people have to say. It is one of the best made, best fitting, and most reasonably priced containers on the market.Nathan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #7 March 5, 2002 cameramonkey,You did not say how big you are.Some manufacturers are better at fitting big guys and others are better at fitting small people.If you are big like me, (6' tall, 190 pounds with broad shoulders) then you will be most comfortable with an Infinity or Voodoo. Both have shoulder yokes that fit gracefully on large shoulders.Will someone please explain where all this nastiness against Wings started?I have only packed a few Wings, but found them slightly easier to pack than Javelins. If your rigger cannot pack a Javelin, then he needs to get with the 1980s! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beachbum 0 #8 March 5, 2002 well .. can't really address the rigger aspects ... but pricewise, my VooDoo was in the same vicinity as other popular rigs I priced ... and it IS comfy and freefly friendlyAs long as you are happy with yourself ... who cares what the rest of the world thinks? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinbuss 0 #9 March 5, 2002 I think Wings is a good choice, but if price is such a big concern then perhaps you should have a look at the VortexII from ChuteShop in South Africa. Their prices recently went up a bit, but I think they might still beat the Wings. Also according to my rigger they're reasonably easy to pack.As far as comfort goes, the Vortex is the most comfortable rig I have ever fitted ... bar none.Just my .02I find sometimes it's easy to be myself.Sometimes I find it's better to be somebody else. - Dave Matthews Band Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmsmith 1 #10 March 5, 2002 >Ok, after listening to my riggers bitch and moan (and more>importantly, charge me more) I am starting to look towards>replacing my racer.Over feeding your rigger is not a bad thing, and I assume we are talking about minor amounts such as multiples of ten$, which is cheap when you consider the consequences, right?Most rigs will be comfortable if the harness is properly sized, which can be an issue if you have to send your rig across the country for adjustments. I like my Racers for the flexible feel unlike the "trough" style containers, which accounts for most of the rigs out there. The JumpShack has been around for many years, they be around for more, and their service is first-class too. Good luck!-- RMS Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydive4play 0 #11 March 5, 2002 The Odyssey is the most comfortable rig I have ever used. The price is a little high, but the quality is priceless!!!Lead Follow Or Get The Hell Out Of The Way!!!... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveMonkey 0 #12 March 5, 2002 I've tried a Vortex II, Superfly, Jav Ody, and they're all really comfortable etc. Most new rigs would be ok I think. You shouldn't put a knife in the toaster - but you're an adult now !!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kirils 1 #13 March 5, 2002 Between my wife and I, we have a Migage M2, G3, a Stunts, Reflex, Infinity, and a Vortex II. We are pretty much the same size.No question about it, we both agree the Vortex II is the most comfortable and was the best buy for the dollar. Skydiving is not a static excercise with discrete predictability... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarkM 0 #14 March 5, 2002 I was gonna say get a Mirage until I read the below:Quote3: reasonably pricedThink mine is gonna run me a little under 2.5k But I'll own it for quite awhile. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unisyn 0 #15 March 5, 2002 If you are looking for the most comfortable and the highest quality of service and product get the Mirage G3 with the Unisyn harness. You won't be sorry. Plus the delivery time is great! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nws01 0 #16 March 5, 2002 QuoteIf you are looking for the most comfortable and the highest quality of service and product get the Mirage G3 with the Unisyn harness. You won't be sorry. Plus the delivery time is great!I recommended the Wings because it was a first new container and the price was one of his top needs. However, my first rig was a G3 and I will never own anything else. I love it. Nathan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SniperCJ 0 #17 March 6, 2002 I got a new Mirage a few months ago. I probably have 30 jumps on it so far and I'm waiting for it to break in and get comfy.It pulls on my shoulders and sometimes borders on hurting. I *think* its just stiff from being new, but I'm beginning to wonder...At this point, my old Dolphin is more comfortable! I havnt tried most of the others, but I tried a Vector 3 once and it was WAY comfy the way the shoulder straps curved in a little. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weid14 0 #18 March 6, 2002 you may be tightening the leg straps to tight. try keeping them snug, but not cranked down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cameramonkey 0 #19 March 6, 2002 you may be tightening the leg straps to tight. try keeping them snug, but not cranked down.so THATS why I cant arch! ;) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mountainman 0 #20 March 6, 2002 Yo Roy......I think that Laura and I will bring our rigs on Saturday. You can try them both on if you want. They are two sizes (obviously). I am 5'10" - 220 and she is like 5'6" - 135 or so. So, you can see how they fit and at least get a feel.Let me know. We LOVE them.JumpinDuo.com...come and sign the guestbook. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 0 #21 March 6, 2002 I had the same problem. Contact Mirage, they ended up replacing/extending my yoke and extending my laterals (they called them stabilizers). Trust me it doesn't get any better over time. Now my rig is SUPER comfy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kris 0 #22 March 7, 2002 QuoteI got a new Mirage a few months ago. I probably have 30 jumps on it so far and I'm waiting for it to break in and get comfy.My new Mirage has about 50 jumps on it and it has never been uncomfortable. I have to chime in and agree with those who said to make sure that your legstraps aren't too tight. They should be snug but not tight. You should be able to get your flattened hand under the leg-straps (think running a seat-belt through). Kris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SniperCJ 0 #23 March 7, 2002 I really gotta hand it to Mirage Systems. Very shortly after I posted about my rig being uncomfortable I received an e-mail from Mirage Customer Service stating that they had read my post and asking that I take photos of me wearing the rig, new measurements, and send the rig in so that it can be checked.My gf and I have both dealt with Mirage customer service since we got our rigs and they have been nothing but helpful. Still, for a company to go out of its way to solicit a return and possible repair goes above and beyond the call!This is truly how you build lifelong customers.Thanks Mirage!JC Cranford Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 0 #24 March 7, 2002 They are great, I had emailed them saying I thought my rigger had messed up the reserve pack job and they told me to do the same thing. Then after spending 30 or so min talking to Jeff after they got my rig, it was fixed and returned to me 2 weeks later. They totally rule. Plus as a bonus they hooked me up with those new SS legstrap friction adapters. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarkM 0 #25 March 7, 2002 Dude that's awesome. I'm just hoping they get my complicated color scheme right *hint hint to anyone who's reading* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0