"Tucking" the nose

[billvon 3,010]

A note on tucking the nose to slow down the openings:
Many people do this even though canopy manufacturers warn you not to. To illustrate why not, here's a post from rec.skydiving a few days back:
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I currently have a Sabre 210, it has spanked me a couple times and i decided to
start rolling the nose about 6 times on each side and then tucking it into the
center cell to keep it there and slow down the opening. I've been doing this
since December. Last night i took my canopy out to inspect it seeing as i
landing off and in a corn fiels. I started to inspect the canopy and get dirt
and peices of corn stock out, when I discovered the damage done to the canopy.
The cross port closest to the nose, of the center cell, has a tear on it on
both the top and bottom to the seam. After talking with my rigger, we
determined that because of the stresses on opening and the air forcing the nose
of the canopy to unravel from the tucked space, it cause stress on the port.
So as a advice to others, maybe it tore some other way, but if you roll your
nose and tuck it like I did, check that port and see if it's torn. I very
rarely look inside the canopy for tears and I'm sure many others are like me.
Just offering my learning experience to others so maybe the same thing doesn't
happen to you guys.
(kansasskydiver@aol.com )
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-bill von

[freeflir29 0]

Yep...I was taught to do that by a "Very Knowledgeable" skydiver. Later I learned....yes it works...but here's why NOT to do that. It never damaged my personal canopy. I guess I was lucky. I would bet rolling the nose tight but leaving it outside the cells is almost as good.
"Here I come to save the BOOBIES!"

[TEB6363 0]

I agree with following the manufacturers recommendations for the parachute. That's why, with my Monarch, I do roll and tuck the nose in to slow the opening because that is what Precision recommends.
Breezy Shaw of Precision said this about rolling the nose: "There are several methods and theories about
slowing inflation by this method, but we've found that rolling our cells in a tight roll and inserting the roll into the center cell, repeating the procedure for the other side, works quite well. Some people theorize that this method can put stress on the seams and stiching of the center cell, but we've found no evidence that this is the case. And this method seems to do the best job of retarding inflation of the canopy".
I have tried various methods of packing. I try and stay with what is recommended and what works for me.
:::OK, Canopy is Open, No Traffic Around, .. Why are these "Extra" Lines Draping Down??, Damn!

[eml 0]

I don't know the if glide path, the mfg. of the 1982 manta I used to jump recommends it or not, but I rolled it up past the tabs and stuck it deep in the center to get good soft snivels.
maybe its just a tough canopy, or maybe I was lucky, but it took it for 10 years without any problems. I have since switched to a triathlon which opens soft by simply making sure the slider is covering the cell openings.

[Kirils 1]

Tucking in the nose is a procedure I've done in the past. I've abandoned it because I feel it increases the chance of off heading openings and mals and it may damage the canopy. If the proceedure is necessary, it's my opinion you look for a new canropy. PA's advice to stuff the nose on the Monarch is because there were design problems and it was necessary to get an opening that didn't slam you. The newer canopy designs don't require these extreme packing techniques.

Skydiving is not a static excercise with discrete predictability...

[SkydiveMonkey 0]

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it's my opinion you look for a new canropy

Why not just get a larger or pocketed slider instead? Adrenaline Junkie Skydive Monkey

[nicknitro71 0]

My Hornet manual specifies to tuck the nose in WITHOUT rolling it. That's what I do.
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