Austin 0 #1 July 31, 2002 I am just curious as to why everybody thinks that Safires are so hard to land. I have only jumped mine like 10-15 times, but I don't think it's hard to land like all I have read on here from people saying. So if you think that your safire is/was hard to land, would you explain why? Austin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Danger 0 #2 July 31, 2002 I have been jumping my Safire for 3 years now and never had a problem landing it. I constantly out swoop Stilettos under my 109. Danger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #3 July 31, 2002 Safires have a different flare point then a PD canopy. Most people fly PD with its short flare point then when they jump Icarus they have hard landings since they are trying to land it like a PD canopy. I'd guess most people start on the Safire and not another product so they take it out on the canopy and not themselfs. Icarus has a long toggle stroke and flare point. PD's is about mid chest while Icarus, Atair and a few others are more hip level or lower. You need to do practice flares up high to learn the flare point on any canopy whe nyou first start jumping it. And do every flare by feel, not muscle memory. CobaltDan has a post on canopy control and balence... search for that and it will get you started in the right direction.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Austin 0 #4 July 31, 2002 That's what I was getting at Phree... I didn't get why so many people were saying that Safires are hard to land. My landings have nothing to do with muscle memory; I just fly it out until it's time to stop. Austin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KATO33 0 #5 July 31, 2002 Initially I didn't care for the landings on my safire but I was a new jumper on a new to me and different than what i trained on canopy. I'm now starting to get this canopy dialed in and the landings are getting much better. Blue Skies Black Death Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #6 July 31, 2002 QuoteI'm now starting to get this canopy dialed in and the landings are getting much better. It took me almost 100 jumps to get the landings really dialed in on this canopy, now that they are I think it's one of the sweetest canopies in its class. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swanee 0 #7 August 1, 2002 I have to admit that, even after 200 jumps on it, I was never able toi "dial in" the landings (possibly since I' loaded it to the max). I got the mod done (www.jumpergirl.com) and it has transformed my landings. Highly recommended. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites