JFC3 0 #1 August 7, 2002 I've seen these before but noone has ever been exactly enthused about having them. Can anyone who does have them or did have them share their opinions or thoughts on these? Werer they tough to unstow, restow. Are they worth it? "Five days? But I'm angry now!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Merrick 0 #2 August 7, 2002 They ROCK!!! My last rig simply had velcro to secure the toggles... the Trulok are less of a hassle than even those. The velcro would fray & chew at the excess brake line you had to stow, but the trulok keeps everything out of the way nice, and there's not additional wear & tear. They're easy to stow, and I've never had any problems unstowing them, plus they seem way more secure.... I love em. Blues! Merrick Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjasantos 0 #3 August 7, 2002 Hi JFC3, I have trulok toggles on my Micron. As you've seen those, there's no need to explain how they work. The main advantage is they are velcro free, so their durability is longer than those with velcro. They also easy and fast to prepare for the next jump. The way you use this toggles to steer your canopy is the same as you would use another pair of toggles... the main difference is just the way you fit/attach the toggle itself to the riser. Mine work fine and I'm happy with them. If I had to order another Micron, I would order trulok toggles again. Besides this option, I've order as well the riser housings... One of my teammates, who also has a Micron with riser housings, had to cut away after a badly twisted spinning canopy, and he was impressed on how easy and "almost soft" it was to pull his cutaway pad... so it's worthy as well... Blue Skies! ----------------------------- Mario Santos Portugal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ramon 0 #4 August 7, 2002 Assuming at first that we don't like velcro.... I like the tru-lock toggles better than velcro-less Reflex risers and velcro-less Voodooo risers. The reflex risers are not held tightly in and would be very easy to unstowe one by pulling the slider down. the voodoo velcro less toggles are a little better than the reflex ones but the toggles are small and they seem flimsy. I do think it would be harder to lose a toggle than the reflex. The micron velcro less seems very secure. some risers like jump shack racers have toggles with snaps on them which keep sthem in place, however I like the straight pins on the micron. I think I have like 200-300 jumps on my micron and my toggles are still tight, however the top toggle keeper (made of elastic) is starting to come un sewed. ramon"Revolution is an abrupt change in the form of misgovernment.", Ambrose Bierce. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hobbes4star 0 #5 August 7, 2002 you are right about he voodoo toggles. i hate them. as soon as i get a chance i am going to get them changed. they are to small and flimsy and are at times a pain in the ass to grab.if fun were easy it wouldn't be worth having, right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JamesNahikian 0 #6 August 8, 2002 I'm glad to have them. More so after I had to chop (and nearly lost) a new main several weeks ago due to the flimsy plastic secondary toggle keepers on my Fliteline risers, which gave way on opening. $25 v. $1800, you do the math. D. James Nahikian CHICAGO Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrumpySmurf 0 #7 August 8, 2002 I swapped out the risers on my Odyssey for a pair of RWS TruLok's. One thing that never ceases to amaze me is the quality of workmanship Relative Workshop puts into every little thing - my Sabre2 has a nasty habit of slider recoil upon inflation where the slider will come down with enough force to jump past the SLinks, the dive loops and 3/4's of the way down the toggles. With the Sunpath risers (with exposed toggle keepers), it was a matter of time before a toggle would be knocked loose, plus you have no where to store the excess brake line, dunno how many times I have gotten it caught around a finger in gloves when popping the toggles during the winter. Not to mention the 3 ring release on the RWS risers is right on with Bill Booth's spec (as I would suspect they would be ) - where as the Sunpath risers were a little iffy - and 'iffy' is not something I want to be with my escape mechanism. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JFC3 0 #8 August 8, 2002 Good point. Actually from what I've seen here I will definately opt of the Trulock. Thanks everyone. "Five days? But I'm angry now!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ernokaikkonen 0 #9 August 9, 2002 Could someone please post a picture of the Trulok-toggles? I've never seen them. Erno Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjasantos 0 #10 August 10, 2002 QuoteCould someone please post a picture of the Trulok-toggles? I've never seen them. Hi Erno, Here it goes... a collection of 16 pics sequence of the RWS TruLok... and 2 pics of the RWS Riser Housing detail. Hope it helps! Blue Skies! ----------------------------- Mario Santos Portugal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,107 #11 August 12, 2002 I put them on my Javelin in the spring and have around 150 jumps on them now. They are well made and have not caused any problems. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites