skreamer 1 #26 August 28, 2002 I jump a Hornet '150 (loaded at 1.3:1), I've made about 290 jumps on it and really like it. I've also jumped a Sabre 135, 150 and 170. My next canopy will be a Heatwave '135 which I am buying directly from PISA. Their customer service rocks. Also, bear in mind PISA manufacture the ZP material that they use, which helps make their prices even more competitive. By the way, where are PD canopies manufactured? Will Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nicknitro71 0 #27 August 28, 2002 I will never buy a new canopy from anybody but PISA. Their products are outstanding. The colored tabs are sweet. There are guys with thousands of jumps that still roll the tail when I'm finished packing. It's a little nice addition. PD and other manufactures gotta charge more for each canopy due to their overheads; nothing wrong with that but it is not my game. I have a mind of my own and I jump what I think is the best quality/cost product.Memento Audere Semper 903 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve1 5 #28 August 28, 2002 Kevin, You know I have heard so many stories about the nice soft openings on Hornets that I hate to bring this up. But yes, my hornet was slamming me on a regular basis when I pro-packed it. The good news is that I started psycho-packing and this seems to be working fine so far. I only have about 40 jumps on it. I only spent about $650. (plus freight) when I bought it new from South Africa last winter. There prices have gone up since then, but What a buy! I love the way it flies, lands, and packs up small. Steve1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kevin922 0 #29 August 28, 2002 Humm i haven't been ballsy enough to try not doing anything to the nose.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #30 August 28, 2002 Nick, have you inquired on maintence from PISA yet? Line changeing fees, line sets, general backend costs on a PISA canopy over a PD?Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nicknitro71 0 #31 August 28, 2002 Nope for the simple reason when I need to reline I'd buy a new canopy. But If you want you can drop a line to PISA go right ahead they'll get back to you the same day unlike PD...Memento Audere Semper 903 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #32 August 28, 2002 >But If you want you can drop a line to PISA go right ahead they'll get back to you the same day unlike PD... I've never had PD take more then 24 hours to contact me back. (Kolla ROCKS!) The reason I ask is because I've been bitten by one company that says they don't do maintence and require you to do the work your self or have an autherized repair center. I was just wondering if PISA is the same way.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymedic 0 #33 August 28, 2002 Eric...as far as prices I'm not sure..but I know for sure when Aviator sent his hornet in for a reline it got back to him with in 2 weeks...from SA...not to bad if you ask me.... Marc otherwise known as Mr.Fallinwoman.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spy38W 0 #34 August 28, 2002 QuoteBTW what is the smallest hornet they make? I jump a 135 and haven't seen anyone else with one that size.. Hornet Sizes: 120 135 150 170 190 210 Heatwave Sizes: 100 120 135 150 170 190 -- Hook high, flare on time Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymedic 0 #35 August 28, 2002 They make a 230 hornet also.... Marc otherwise known as Mr.Fallinwoman.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spy38W 0 #36 August 28, 2002 QuoteThey make a 230 hornet also.... Thanks Marc, I missed that in my cut and paste -- Hook high, flare on time Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brianthomas1966 0 #37 August 29, 2002 [size 2]I have a Hornet 210. I'm a new jumper, so I don't have alot to compare it to. I had a custom one from Mike @ Pier in 5 weeks along with the rest of the complete rig with a Tempo reserve. The canopy flies like a Sabre that I tried in Dallas, it flares good, and I survived the traffic in Rantoul. The colored attachment points make it easy to PRO pack, since I'm still not great at it. Since I got the canopy, I've had slow openings. Long snivels, or long to me anyway 800-900'. That might not be bad, but like I said I'm a new jumper and am used to the student canopy that opens quicker. The guy at PISA (Ned) was right on it though, when I requested his input via email. He pointed out that the Hornet is designed to have a higher wing load, not under loaded. So make sure you take that into consideration when buying one for your wife. I weigh 210, 240 out of the plane and still get slow openings on the 210 sq. ft. PISA is working on getting the canopy right - they've offered a new smaller slider and are having the trim checked by a factory trained rigger. Can't ask for better service than that. I think you'll have a fine canopy for the price and the money you'll save can go for some extra jump tickets at the DZ![/size] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #38 August 29, 2002 QuoteLong snivels, or long to me anyway 800-900' I would call that perfect!!! Enjoy... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skreamer 1 #39 August 29, 2002 Just an update for y'all. I just got an email from PISA, my Heatwave '135 is ready. It took exactly 4 weeks from ordering and Ned had to go to some trouble to get the colours I wanted. I also ordered a 5m length of Burgundy ZP fabric so I could have some tubes made over here. Total price for new custom colour Heatwave '135 and 5m length of ZP? £401 ($616)! Maybe one day I'll be able to justify spending £1 600 on a main, but for the level I am at I believe that this canopy will do just fine! Will Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dterrick 0 #40 August 29, 2002 QuoteThe guy at PISA (Ned) was right on it though, when I requested his input via email. He pointed out that the Hornet is designed to have a higher wing load, not under loaded. ...so as I'm looking at the specs the "max rec." weight of a 170 is only 205 lbs, a 1.21 wingloading. If they mean RECOMMENDED weight, I'm cool as I'm 205 out the door and right on the numbers. Is that what their posted "max #'s" really means? Blue Skies Dave Life is very short and there's no time for fussing and fighting my friend (Lennon/McCartney) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #41 August 29, 2002 Those numbers basiclly mean... They are not responcible (Or any canopy maker) if you damage the canopy loading it above what they say to load it at.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cloud9 0 #42 August 29, 2002 QuoteIf they mean RECOMMENDED weight, I'm cool as I'm 205 out the door and right on the numbers. Is that what their posted "max #'s" really means? I don't know what they really mean, but I was loading my Hornet at about 1.45 and it flew and landed great! I liked it so much, I went to the Heatwave and will stay with it for several hundred more jumps, I'm that happy with it! It is also loaded at about 1.45 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegman 0 #43 September 2, 2002 Hornets kick ass!They are good if your learning to pack because the lines are color coded.I bought my from roy at rigs& things for $950.00 you can find his website at www.para-service.comQuote http://www.freefallmaniacs.net Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites thegman 0 #44 September 6, 2002 Why is it that you prefer the hornet over the heatwave.Isnt the hornet more docile.Were you trying to upsize.Or what.The reason I ask.I was thinking abou getting a heatwave and I currently jump a hornet.I figured they're both made by PISA and I love the hornet but I want the elliptical factor. http://www.freefallmaniacs.net Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skreamer 1 #45 September 6, 2002 QuoteWhy is it that you prefer the hornet over the heatwave? He said that he has 70 jumps, maybe thats why he (sensibly)doesn't feel ready for an elliptical canopy just yet. QuoteI love the hornet but I want the elliptical factor Your profile says you have 95 jumps, are you sure you are ready for the "elliptical factor"? I don't know your wing-loading, but this does seem a bit soon to be going elliptical. Will Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites coho21 0 #46 September 6, 2002 Yep, Skreamer pretty much hit it on the nose. I've jumped a diablo a couple of times but with my experience level I'm not ready for all of the nasties that an eliptical can dish out. Plus, I'd rather learn to radically fly a docile canopy first and swoop the *&%# out of it, (not that I'm going to anytime soon ) and then move to an eliptical. J Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites thegman 0 #47 September 6, 2002 No, not ready just yet.I'm tinking about my next canopy.In eiher case it will be either a hornet or a heatwave when.I downsize. http://www.freefallmaniacs.net Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 2 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
thegman 0 #44 September 6, 2002 Why is it that you prefer the hornet over the heatwave.Isnt the hornet more docile.Were you trying to upsize.Or what.The reason I ask.I was thinking abou getting a heatwave and I currently jump a hornet.I figured they're both made by PISA and I love the hornet but I want the elliptical factor. http://www.freefallmaniacs.net Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skreamer 1 #45 September 6, 2002 QuoteWhy is it that you prefer the hornet over the heatwave? He said that he has 70 jumps, maybe thats why he (sensibly)doesn't feel ready for an elliptical canopy just yet. QuoteI love the hornet but I want the elliptical factor Your profile says you have 95 jumps, are you sure you are ready for the "elliptical factor"? I don't know your wing-loading, but this does seem a bit soon to be going elliptical. Will Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coho21 0 #46 September 6, 2002 Yep, Skreamer pretty much hit it on the nose. I've jumped a diablo a couple of times but with my experience level I'm not ready for all of the nasties that an eliptical can dish out. Plus, I'd rather learn to radically fly a docile canopy first and swoop the *&%# out of it, (not that I'm going to anytime soon ) and then move to an eliptical. J Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegman 0 #47 September 6, 2002 No, not ready just yet.I'm tinking about my next canopy.In eiher case it will be either a hornet or a heatwave when.I downsize. http://www.freefallmaniacs.net Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
