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AndyMan 7
I get end-cell closure on my Stiletto loaded at 1.5ish once in a while. They really don't bother me because they're part of the nice slow openings that I like.
I usually have to do a turn or two to get myself back to the DZ, and those turns will usually get the cells open again.
_Am
I usually have to do a turn or two to get myself back to the DZ, and those turns will usually get the cells open again.
_Am
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QuoteI think part of it is our light wingloadings
I dunno about this one, I load my spectre with 1.15 or 1.23 (sometimes I use weights) and almost on every jump I get the tip of the end cells closed. They open on the third scream "OPEN! OPEN! I SAID OPEN" and puff! it opens. Taking the toggles down helps too and so does pulling a bit the rear risers. I think its a sickness from slow openers (from what I have read).
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Every canopy is different, even the same model and size. However, your light wing loading would be the biggest factor affecting closed end cells. Since it is a Sabre 2 I would assume it is fairly new and in trim. Just get in the habit of flaring to open the end cells and in time when you progress to a different wing loading, the end cell closure will be a thing of the past!
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skymama 37
I was having end cell closure on my Sabre 2, and it was also diving to the right. I ended up giving it back to PD for test jumping, and they decided they needed to reline it. I don't have the problem anymore.
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Macaulay 0
Wolmari pack. Before I Wolmari packed, I almost always got end-cell closure on my Sabre. Pack a canopy the way it was made to be packed, and it will open the way it should (99.99% of the time).
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Macaulay 0
(Unless it's a Vengeance)
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riggerrob 643
Shouting.
That's it.
Next time I get end cell closures, I will shout at my canopy.
Will whispering suffice for a small canopy?
Now if it is a really big canopy, like a SET 400, does that mean that you have to shout really loud, or do you ask the tandem student to shout along with you?
That's it.
Next time I get end cell closures, I will shout at my canopy.
Will whispering suffice for a small canopy?
Now if it is a really big canopy, like a SET 400, does that mean that you have to shout really loud, or do you ask the tandem student to shout along with you?
I dunno. I think the Vengeance is actually opening the way it was designed to... (99% o' the time). 
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Rob, my advice would be to take a bullhorn with you on Tandem jumps... no need to loose your voice yelling at the canopy when a simple bull horn would solve the problem. If exiting while holding the bullhorn presents issues the Camera flyer has two free hands.. put them to use. On non videoed jumps... have the student hold it.
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I always wolmari my spectre and its with the not low wingload I mentioned before and 4 out of 5 jumps I get end cell closure.
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I always wolmari my spectre and its with the not low wingload I mentioned before and 4 out of 5 jumps I get end cell closure.
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Kris 0
I get closed end-cells on my Stiletto loaded just under 1.4 on just about every other jump. It just means that I've been the recipant of another great opening. Even with the closed end-cells it never goes more than 10-20 degrees off-heading.
I just give a 1"-3" tug on my rear-risers and they unfurl and inflate every time.
The Sabre2 for the most part is reported to be a very soft-opening canopy. You may just have to live with it unless you modify your pack-job. Or, you may have to go to a slider that is a little smaller if you are getting too much of a snivel as well as the closed end-cells.
If it's a faster opening with closed end-cells, leave the slider size alone.
Kris
I just give a 1"-3" tug on my rear-risers and they unfurl and inflate every time.
The Sabre2 for the most part is reported to be a very soft-opening canopy. You may just have to live with it unless you modify your pack-job. Or, you may have to go to a slider that is a little smaller if you are getting too much of a snivel as well as the closed end-cells.
If it's a faster opening with closed end-cells, leave the slider size alone.
Kris
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Macaulay 0
QuoteI dunno. I think the Vengeance is actually opening the way it was designed to... (99% o' the time).
Twas a joke... but even PD know that almost half the Vengeances out there have "interesting" opening characteristics, and the other half do great.
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rushmc 23
I am gettting the same right turn. Do you know the s/n of your canopy off hand? I wonder if I have the same problem.
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skymama 37
It was manufactured in Nov 2001. I think if you do a search on the forums, you'll find that some other people who had canopies made at the same time had the same problem.
She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man,
because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon
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Helix 0
QuoteI have a Sabre 2. I have end cell closure on almost every jump since I got it. I am loading at about .9 to 1. Is there anything in the packing procedure that can cause the end cells to keep closing? I do about 3 easy pumps to open them up. But I am tired of them closing on EVERY jump.
I am having this exact problem and was searching the forum for some answers when i found this thread. I bought my sabre 2 a couple of weeks ago and in all 12 jumps I had end cell closure. Four different people have packed the canopy. I have been told that it's a normal problem with the sabre 2 if you have low wingload on it (mine is 1.0). This is my first gear so I don't have any experience to compare canopies. Last three jumps i have also experienced having to pump my slider down. How can i fix this?
"minds are like parachutes. They only function when open."
I was told that recently to help my end cell closures on my Hornet.
I actually do it with my risers, since my hands are there anyway.
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