Meso 38 #1 August 14, 2013 The following scam has been reported: Quote On 16-Aug-2013 someone submitted their contact information in response to your ad in the Basejumper.com Classifieds. Please reply to this email to contact the person directly. Username => witterleonj Name => Leon FromEmail => leonj.witter@yahoo.com City => New York Country => Usa Comments => Hello Seller, My name is Mr Leon J Witter . I am interested in your Complete Systems for sale ,Kindly mail me back if its for sale 1. How long have you owned it ? 2. Have you owned it from new ? If not how many previous owner? 3. In your opinion, what sort of condition is it? 4 Last Asking Price? Reply Click here to read more about these kind of scams. Remember: DO NOT do business with anyone who offers to send you payment for a higher amount than your selling price with the understanding that you'll send back the balance. Be suspicious of anyone claiming to be acting on behalf of a "client" or another "customer". Be suspicious of anyone claiming to be from Nigeria or West Africa If you agree to accept a check payment, then do not send anything, gear or "change" before the check cleared. And be careful, if you manage to clear a fraudulent check then you may be liable for the damages if the bank finds out later. Make sure your bank authenticates the check. If it sounds to good to be true, then it probably is.This username has been disabled. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trixonik 0 #2 August 14, 2013 I got the same email for my rig with this follow up. "Great, this is exactly what I need and I'd really like to pay you in cash at hand but right now , I want the item but i live in NY. I can overnight the payment to you Perhaps, given my job as a set administrator for a movie. We move from one location to another, so am just very used to buying and would make arrangements for it to be picked up after you must have confirmed payment with your bank. So my means of payment will be Certified Cashier's OR Money Order ,which is more secured and better than any other means of payment. I'm okay with the price $ 2800 so that you consider it sold to me including transport logistics fee. The pick up will be effected by my transporter after you have confirmed the payment cleared to your account. If this is ok by you, I will need these information below to enable me send the payment out to you immediately via UPS so that we can proceed. (1) Full Name.... , (2) Address to mail the payment....(not a postbox address). ,(3) Cell Phone number.... I will mail you the payment tracking number as soon as I get the information and let you know when you will receive it." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skydivesg 7 #3 August 14, 2013 He is still working it. Below is an email response I recieved from him this morning. ************************************ Thanks for the mail. Great, this is exactly what I need and I'd really like to pay you in cash at hand but right now , I want the item but i live in NY. I can overnight the payment to you Perhaps, given my job as a set administrator for a movie. We move from one location to another, so am just very used to buying and would make arrangements for it to be picked up after you must have confirmed payment with your bank. So my means of payment will be Certified CASHIER'S CHECK OR MONEY ORDER ,which is more secured and better than any other means of payment. I'm okay with the price $1250 so that you consider it sold to me including transport logistics fee. The pick up will be effected by my transporter after you have confirmed the payment cleared to your account. If this is ok by you, I will need these information below to enable me send the payment out to you immediately via UPS so that we can proceed. (1) Full Name.... , (2) Address to mail the payment....(not a postbox address). ,(3) Cell Phone number.... I will mail you the payment as soon as I get the information and let you know when you will receive it. Reply On 8/12/13, SkydiveSG@aol.com wrote: > Which ad are you talking about? > > Sandy Grillet > > > Be the canopy pilot you want that other guy to be > > New Vigil 2 - $1250(includes shipping) > > UPT Vector Dealer * PD sub-Dealer > > Ask me about HFS Tunnel Camps at Skyventure Colorado > > > > In a message dated 8/12/2013 8:24:50 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > witterleonj@gmail.com writes: > > Hi Skydivesg, > > On 12-Aug-2013 someone submitted their contact information in response to > your ad in the Dropzone.com Classifieds. Please reply to this email to > contact the person directly. > > Username => witterleonj > > URL => > http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/classifieds/jump.cgi?Detailed=149011 > > Name => Leon > > FromEmail => witterleonj@gmail.com > > City => New York > > Country => Usa > > Comments => > Hello Seller, > > My name is Leon J Witter . > > I am interested in your ADD GEAR for sale ,Kindly mail me back if its for > > sale > > 1. How long have you owned it? > > 2. Have you owned it from new? If not how many previous owner? > > 3. In your opinion, what sort of condition is it? > > 4 Your Last Asking Price ? > > witterleonj@gmail.com > > Reply >Be the canopy pilot you want that other guy to be. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Espi610 0 #4 August 14, 2013 On 12-Aug-2013 someone submitted their contact information in response to your ad in the Dropzone.com Classifieds. Please reply to this email to contact the person directly. Username => witterleonj URL => http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/classifieds/jump.cgi?Detailed=148037 Name => Leon FromEmail => witterleonj@gmail.com City => New York Country => Usa Comments => Hello Seller, My name is Leon J Witter . I am interested in your Jumpsuits for sale ,Kindly mail me back if its for sale 1. How long have you owned it? 2. Have you owned it from new? If not how many previous owner? 3. In your opinion, what sort of condition is it? 4 Your Last Asking Price ? witterleonj@gmail.com Then... Hi am Daniela, I did it myself in january, it just have a tested jump and some catwalks, minimum 280 usd and he said Thanks for the mail. Great, this is exactly what I need and I'd really like to pay you in cash at hand but right now , I want the item but i live in NY. I can overnight the payment to you Perhaps, given my job as a set administrator for a movie. We move from one location to another, so am just very used to buying and would make arrangements for it to be picked up after you must have confirmed payment with your bank. So my means of payment will be Certified Cashier's OR Money Order ,which is more secured and better than any other means of payment. I'm okay with the price $ 350 so that you consider it sold to me including transport logistics fee. The pick up will be effected by my transporter after you have confirmed the payment cleared to your account. If this is ok by you, I will need these information below to enable me send the payment out to you immediately via UPS so that we can proceed. (1) Full Name.... , (2) Address to mail the payment....(not a postbox address). ,(3) Cell Phone number.... I will mail you the payment tracking number as soon as I get the information and let you know when you will receive it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GQ_jumper 4 #5 August 14, 2013 I received the same email a few days ago asking to buy my Aerodyne rig. I'm having fun with it and demanding he pay me via PayPal or to my PO box and asking him to call me because my email access is intermittent. Next I'm going to ask him to give me his bank info so I can transfer $10,000,000 in Ugandan currency so my sister and I who are part of the royal family can flee to NY!History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
astoss 0 #6 August 14, 2013 I don't have anything to add to the conversation, but same story/emails were sent to me Aug 12/14. Definitely seemed sketchy from the get-go. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
askir 0 #7 August 14, 2013 Yup and me too.... I just received an offer to buy my gear.... Told him I am like the hookers, money in cash on hand first, then you get the goodies.... LIFE IS LIKE A CIGARETTE, YOU CAN SIT THERE AND WATCH IT BURN AWAY OR YOU CAN SMOKE THAT BITCH TO THE FILTER Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ourikan 0 #8 August 14, 2013 Same in here. Got two items I've posted. on his first attempted\email I got suspicious. On his second I was about to report a new alert, Guess I wasn't the first this time Blue Ones Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
askir 0 #9 August 14, 2013 We should find these fucks and offer them a free base jump from a bridge, no training necessary... LIFE IS LIKE A CIGARETTE, YOU CAN SIT THERE AND WATCH IT BURN AWAY OR YOU CAN SMOKE THAT BITCH TO THE FILTER Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amyr 0 #10 August 14, 2013 I have a identical email from this buyer as well. Just opened it today. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU Thanks for the mail. Great, this is exactly what I need and I'd really like to pay you in cash at hand but right now , I want the item but i live in NY. I can overnight the payment to you Perhaps, given my job as a set administrator for a movie. We move from one location to another, so am just very used to buying and would make arrangements for it to be picked up after you must have confirmed payment with your bank. So my means of payment will be Certified Cashier's OR Money Order ,which is more secured and better than any other means of payment. I'm okay with the price $ 500 so that you consider it sold to me including transport logistics fee. The pick up will be effected by my transporter after you have confirmed the payment cleared to your account. If this is ok by you, I will need these information below to enable me send the payment out to you immediately via UPS so that we can proceed. (1) Full Name.... , (2) Address to mail the payment....(not a postbox address). ,(3) Cell Phone number.... I will mail you the payment tracking number as soon as I get the information and let you know when you will receive it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
missykp 0 #11 August 14, 2013 So I came here to notify DZ.com of this guy and I saw all of your memos. I received the same response from him AFTER I told him that someone was already looking at it. I sent him the following memo as I knew he was conning. What a schmoozer! Yeah, nice try buddy. Go scam someone else...and work on your English while you're at it, might help you get a real job Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
udzcloud 0 #12 August 14, 2013 I just got hit by this scumbag too, watch out QuoteThanks for the mail. Great, this is exactly what I need and I'd really like to pay you in cash at hand but right now , I want the item but i live in NY. I can overnight the payment to you Perhaps, given my job as a set administrator for a movie. We move from one location to another, so am just very used to buying and would make arrangements for it to be picked up after you must have confirmed payment with your bank. So my means of payment will be Certified Cashier's OR Money Order ,which is more secured and better than any other means of payment. I'm okay with the price $ 1100 so that you consider it sold to me including transport logistics fee. The pick up will be effected by my transporter after you have confirmed the payment cleared to your account. If this is ok by you, I will need these information below to enable me send the payment out to you immediately via UPS so that we can proceed. (1) Full Name.... , (2) Address to mail the payment....(not a postbox address). ,(3) Cell Phone number.... I will mail you the payment tracking number as soon as I get the information and let you know when you will receive it. Reply Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cmp0806 0 #13 August 14, 2013 He tried to pull it on me as well. Skydiving is a small community and if you won't tell me your home DZ or rigger, then I'm on high alert. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anachronist 2 #14 August 14, 2013 Hahahaha nice job GQ_jumper I got the same e-mail but didn't bother messing with him. How is this scam suppose to work anyway? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
schulm04 0 #15 August 14, 2013 He is trying to get me too. I'm going to spam his email address Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
punchur 0 #16 August 14, 2013 Add me to the list. Not only did he try once but I got his crap on both adds I currently have up! Some people's kids....... Edited to add my last reply to him....before seeing this post when I logged on to report him! to Leon Just forget it dude. I set the terms for selling my gear, not you....try your games on somebody else....good luck. You have my phone number.....you blew it by not calling. And yes, I will notify DZ.com of my gut feeling that you're a scammer.... Don't waste your time with any further bullshit emails to me. Farewell Do you know where your tools are? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barnesrf 0 #17 August 14, 2013 Received an email from this person this week on a rig I have for sale. Thought it sounded fake. I always reply back with some specific skydiving questions. If they are ignored, I know it is a scam. SELLER BEWARE! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dantana 0 #18 August 15, 2013 Hit me up, too. Not clear what the scam is, fake cashier's check? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tow.holland 0 #19 August 15, 2013 Got the same email for a reserve I have listed. A scamer for sure!Quote Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites birdynamnam 28 #20 August 22, 2013 got one from him too. Btw Why isn't such a user removed immediately when it is obvious what he is doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Meso 38 #21 August 22, 2013 We do disable the users as soon as they are reported. This individual was disabled when the original post was made, and all his account privileges disabled too. I just double checked now and while looking, I saw that they have not logged in since the date when this thread was created. When did you receive a message from them? If it was over the past couple days, please forward that message they sent to abuse [at ] dropzone.com so we can see what is going on, as he shouldn't have been able to contact anyone using that username for nearly 2 weeks. It's possible that they may have created a new username, while still using the same details when they contact users. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GanGirl 0 #22 September 22, 2014 I received a similar email: On 17-Sep-2014 someone submitted their contact information in response to your ad in the Dropzone.com Classifieds. Please reply to this email to contact the person directly. Username => leonwjwritter75 URL => http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/classifieds/jump.cgi?Detailed=165420 Name => Leon J Witter FromEmail => leonwjwritter75@gmail.com City => Country => Comments => Hello Seller, My name is Mr Leon J Witter . I am interested in your Containers for sale ,Kindly mail me back if its for sale 1. How long have you owned it? 2. Have you owned it from new? If not how many previous owner? 3. In your opinion, what sort of condition is it? 4 Last Asking Price? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Danger 0 #23 September 23, 2014 Yup, still active. Here's the email I received on Sept 22nd. Thanks for the mail. Great, this is exactly what I need and I'd really like to pay you in cash at hand but right now , I want the item but i live in NY. I can overnight the payment to you Perhaps, given my job as a set administrator for a movie. We move from one location to another, so am just very used to buying and would make arrangements for it to be picked up after you must have confirmed payment with your bank. So my means of payment will be Certified Cashier check,which is more secured and better than any other means of payment. I'm okay with the price so that you consider it sold to me including transport logistics fee. The pick up will be effected by my transporter after you have confirmed the payment cleared to Danger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Hage 0 #24 September 29, 2014 I Also received an offer for my canopy… from this guy MesoThe following scam has been reported: Quote On 16-Aug-2013 someone submitted their contact information in response to your ad in the Basejumper.com Classifieds. Please reply to this email to contact the person directly. Username => witterleonj Name => Leon FromEmail => leonj.witter@yahoo.com City => New York Country => Usa Comments => Hello Seller, My name is Mr Leon J Witter . I am interested in your Complete Systems for sale ,Kindly mail me back if its for sale 1. How long have you owned it ? 2. Have you owned it from new ? If not how many previous owner? 3. In your opinion, what sort of condition is it? 4 Last Asking Price? Reply Click here to read more about these kind of scams. Remember: DO NOT do business with anyone who offers to send you payment for a higher amount than your selling price with the understanding that you'll send back the balance. Be suspicious of anyone claiming to be acting on behalf of a "client" or another "customer". Be suspicious of anyone claiming to be from Nigeria or West Africa If you agree to accept a check payment, then do not send anything, gear or "change" before the check cleared. And be careful, if you manage to clear a fraudulent check then you may be liable for the damages if the bank finds out later. Make sure your bank authenticates the check. If it sounds to good to be true, then it probably is.This username has been disabled. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kendrap005 0 #25 September 30, 2014 Thanks for the mail. Great, this is exactly what I need and I'd really like to pay you in cash at hand but right now , I want the item but i live in NY. I can overnight the payment to you Perhaps, given my job as a set administrator for a movie. We move from one location to another, so am just very used to buying and would make arrangements for it to be picked up after you must have confirmed payment with your bank. So my means of payment will be Certified Cashier check,which is more secured and better than any other means of payment. I'm okay with the price so that you consider it sold to me including transport logistics fee. The pick up will be effected by my transporter after you have confirmed the payment cleared to your account. If this is ok by you, I will need these information below to enable me send the payment out to you immediately via UPS so that we can proceed. (1) Full Name.... , (2) Address to mail the payment....(not a postbox address). ,(3) Cell Phone number.... , (4) Asking Price ........ I will mail you the payment tracking number as soon as I get the information and let you know when you will receive it. Replyhe samr guy just tried to buy my father's bike...thank god for Google i put his name and this site popped up thanks this is the email I got Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
birdynamnam 28 #20 August 22, 2013 got one from him too. Btw Why isn't such a user removed immediately when it is obvious what he is doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meso 38 #21 August 22, 2013 We do disable the users as soon as they are reported. This individual was disabled when the original post was made, and all his account privileges disabled too. I just double checked now and while looking, I saw that they have not logged in since the date when this thread was created. When did you receive a message from them? If it was over the past couple days, please forward that message they sent to abuse [at ] dropzone.com so we can see what is going on, as he shouldn't have been able to contact anyone using that username for nearly 2 weeks. It's possible that they may have created a new username, while still using the same details when they contact users. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GanGirl 0 #22 September 22, 2014 I received a similar email: On 17-Sep-2014 someone submitted their contact information in response to your ad in the Dropzone.com Classifieds. Please reply to this email to contact the person directly. Username => leonwjwritter75 URL => http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/classifieds/jump.cgi?Detailed=165420 Name => Leon J Witter FromEmail => leonwjwritter75@gmail.com City => Country => Comments => Hello Seller, My name is Mr Leon J Witter . I am interested in your Containers for sale ,Kindly mail me back if its for sale 1. How long have you owned it? 2. Have you owned it from new? If not how many previous owner? 3. In your opinion, what sort of condition is it? 4 Last Asking Price? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Danger 0 #23 September 23, 2014 Yup, still active. Here's the email I received on Sept 22nd. Thanks for the mail. Great, this is exactly what I need and I'd really like to pay you in cash at hand but right now , I want the item but i live in NY. I can overnight the payment to you Perhaps, given my job as a set administrator for a movie. We move from one location to another, so am just very used to buying and would make arrangements for it to be picked up after you must have confirmed payment with your bank. So my means of payment will be Certified Cashier check,which is more secured and better than any other means of payment. I'm okay with the price so that you consider it sold to me including transport logistics fee. The pick up will be effected by my transporter after you have confirmed the payment cleared to Danger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hage 0 #24 September 29, 2014 I Also received an offer for my canopy… from this guy MesoThe following scam has been reported: Quote On 16-Aug-2013 someone submitted their contact information in response to your ad in the Basejumper.com Classifieds. Please reply to this email to contact the person directly. Username => witterleonj Name => Leon FromEmail => leonj.witter@yahoo.com City => New York Country => Usa Comments => Hello Seller, My name is Mr Leon J Witter . I am interested in your Complete Systems for sale ,Kindly mail me back if its for sale 1. How long have you owned it ? 2. Have you owned it from new ? If not how many previous owner? 3. In your opinion, what sort of condition is it? 4 Last Asking Price? Reply Click here to read more about these kind of scams. Remember: DO NOT do business with anyone who offers to send you payment for a higher amount than your selling price with the understanding that you'll send back the balance. Be suspicious of anyone claiming to be acting on behalf of a "client" or another "customer". Be suspicious of anyone claiming to be from Nigeria or West Africa If you agree to accept a check payment, then do not send anything, gear or "change" before the check cleared. And be careful, if you manage to clear a fraudulent check then you may be liable for the damages if the bank finds out later. Make sure your bank authenticates the check. If it sounds to good to be true, then it probably is.This username has been disabled. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kendrap005 0 #25 September 30, 2014 Thanks for the mail. Great, this is exactly what I need and I'd really like to pay you in cash at hand but right now , I want the item but i live in NY. I can overnight the payment to you Perhaps, given my job as a set administrator for a movie. We move from one location to another, so am just very used to buying and would make arrangements for it to be picked up after you must have confirmed payment with your bank. So my means of payment will be Certified Cashier check,which is more secured and better than any other means of payment. I'm okay with the price so that you consider it sold to me including transport logistics fee. The pick up will be effected by my transporter after you have confirmed the payment cleared to your account. If this is ok by you, I will need these information below to enable me send the payment out to you immediately via UPS so that we can proceed. (1) Full Name.... , (2) Address to mail the payment....(not a postbox address). ,(3) Cell Phone number.... , (4) Asking Price ........ I will mail you the payment tracking number as soon as I get the information and let you know when you will receive it. Replyhe samr guy just tried to buy my father's bike...thank god for Google i put his name and this site popped up thanks this is the email I got Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
